New additions to my Princely State collection

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by spiraltreet, Jan 7, 2007.

  1. bgarg

    bgarg Senior Member

    During Queen Victoria and Edward VII period a mohur was equivalent to 10 rupees only. During George Vth time, the value of mohur was redefined and at that time it was equivalent to 15 rupees.

    Below there are two images of British mohurs issued by Bombay mint during period of Victoria and George Vth. Both of them have same gold content as in gold sovereign (0.2354 Oz AGW).

    Victoria gold 10 rupees dated 1870
    1870_10_Rupee.jpg

    George Vth gold 15 rupees dated 1918
    1918_15_Rupee.jpg

    Regards
    Ballabh Garg
     
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  3. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Ballabh,the Rajkot pieces aren't listed in Krause,which is why they're not regarded as being a proper coin.

    As I have mentioned,this has been determined to be a medal.Perhaps that is what their intention was.

    Besides,a Mohur is a gold coin,not a silver coin anyway.

    Aidan.
     
  4. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Ballabh,that gold 10 Rupees is definitely a Bombay Mint restrike,because it is struck in Proof.The 15 Rupees could or could not be a restrike.

    Be extremely careful.

    Aidan.
     
  5. bgarg

    bgarg Senior Member

    Thanks for your concern and alarming me regarding these.

    I bought both of these coins more 10 years back from a well known dealer in Bombay. At that time, the 10 rupee coin was bought as a proof restrike and 15 rupee was bought as XF of original issue. Personally I feel 15 rupee coin is much more scarce then 10 rupee coin.

    Regards
    Ballabh Garg
     
  6. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Ballabh,the 15 Rupees is almost as scarce as an original 1918I Bombay Mint Sovereign.The Bombay Mint Sovereign was also restruck.

    Thank goodness that the Bombay Mint stopped producing restrikes of old coins back in around 1970.

    The East India Company 1 Mohur & 2 Mohurs are very hard to find.A late friend of mine had a really nice one in his collection,which was split up & sold off at an auction in Australia in early 2005.

    Aidan.
     
  7. bgarg

    bgarg Senior Member

    Well, I don't think I want to limit my knowledge of Indian coins by what's listed in Krause or not. If you want to treat this as a medal, so be it. It's fine with me.

    I checked the two coins which I have in my collection and the gold restrike was marked as Y #1 and I have noted on flip that mintage of gold restrike is merely 54 coins. On silver version, The catalog number is Y #1a and on flip the note reads "off metal restrike" with mintage 1000 pieces.

    Regards
    Ballabh Garg
     
  8. spiraltreet

    spiraltreet New Member

    Ballabh, thanx to you.. I checked the authenticity of those elephant coins with an expert and he strongly suspects that those coins are fakes. I asked the dealer about this and his answer was funny.. He told me that he got it from a local dealer very cheaply and would relist them if I'm late in payment..:eek: I think I escaped narrowly... thanx to you.. :hug:
     
  9. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Ballabh,those 'Y' numbers were very commonly used in the earlier editions of Krause.It was only around 1980 that the Rajkot pieces were found to be presentation medals,so as a result,they ceased to get listed in Krause.

    Aidan.
     
  10. spiraltreet

    spiraltreet New Member

    Here's an interesting coin I got from the Princely State of Makrai. Makrai was located near Delhi.. Interestingly Makrai state under the British suzerainty issued only 2 types of copper coins and the following is one of them.. Since the total population of the state was well below 25,000, mintage of the coins should have been very low (actual mintage not known). The coins of Makrai are not expensive but very hard to find in any condition.. Once in a blue moon, they come and go.. So, this time around, it was me who got lucky.. [​IMG]
     

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  11. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Do you know what denomination it is?

    Biju,that is a very nice copper coin from Makrai.Do you know what denomination it is?

    Aidan.
     
  12. spiraltreet

    spiraltreet New Member

    Its a one paisa coin.. km# 2 . Krause does not mention its year, mintage or value... seems strange.. [​IMG]
     
  13. bgarg

    bgarg Senior Member

    It's a nice coin, Biju. Your coin is identified just based on obverse image of that dagger. However on reverse those coins show a complete name of state in Nagri letters, i.e. 'Ma Ka Ra Ie' in two lines. On your coin, I can't read any of those alphabets and they are little blundered.

    Now, Krause can't mention the year when no date is show on the coin. These coins were minted for several years and by the local blacksmiths not by state mint (in fact, there was no mint for this state). So, no authorized records are available as how many of these were minted and for how long.

    Regards
    Ballabh Garg
     
  14. spiraltreet

    spiraltreet New Member

    Thanx for that Ballabh.. I'll look out for good quality coins.. [​IMG]
     
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