Dilitron of Syracuse

Here are 3 " different " Zeus. Hope they do..

 

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I don't have any coins from Timolean's time but here are some from Syracuse.


Second democracy, ~425 BCE


Dionysos I, ~390 BCE


Agathokles tetradrachm, 310-305 BCE


A couple from a blindly purchase mixed lot (I'm willing to part with these):

Hieron II, 275-215 BCE


Hieron II again

 

@Bing Curious about your second coin. I have one very similar and pegged it as Morgantina.

 

@TIF same as @Bing, your last coin. Have I identified my coin incorrectly?


Ruler: Agathokles
State, City: Sicily, Morgantina
Coin: Bronze
- Head of Kore – Persephone l crowned with ears of corn; in field r., poppy head
- Bull butting l., above, club and I, in exergue, IE
Mint: (317-310 BC)
Wt./Size/Axis: 5.64g / 19mm / -
References:

• Similar to SNG ANS cf. 572ff
• Calciati II, 347, 191/D89-R9

 

@Pishpash, I'm not sure. I haven't looked at those mixed lot coins in over a year and right now I can't get on Wildwinds (a frustrating and frequent problem). I labeled my coin's image file as Hieron II so at the time that's what I thought it was.

It looks like the type was issued by Agathokles and by Hieron II. Looking through Vcoins for both-- not many examples with clear and centered strikes-- it's unclear how the two are distinguished. I think your coin is from Hieron II but there's a good chance I'm wrong. There's also a chance that some of the Vcoins examples are misattributed.

 

I have had a look on the Wildwinds Morgantina page and this coin is not there. So now I am puzzled as to where I got the attribution from. I will do a bit more research on it, thanks.

 

Update!

I have found two coins that are very similar on acsearch and they are both attributed to Morgantina. Looking at my notes, I think this is where my attribution has come from. I will change it to Hieron II.

 

I suspect there is not agreement about this type of Kore/butting bull bronze. Maybe they were issued by both Agathokles and Hieron II, maybe just one or the other?

Here's some discussion on another forum:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=68626.msg431452#msg431452

If anyone has further information or opinions about who issued this type, please chime in

 

Thanks TIF the discussion was interesting. For now, I will change the attribution to Hieron II. If it needs changing again in the future, I am ok with that.

 

Sorry about coming to the discussion late. The second coin pictured came with a certificate of authenticity from David Sear with this attribution:
SICILY, SYRACUSE, HIERON II
AE19
OBVERSE: Head of Persephone left, wreathed with corn, wearing earring and necklace, poppy head behind head .
REVERSE: Bull butting left; above, club above IA; IE in exergue Struck at Syracuse, Sicily 275-265 BC
5.71g; 19mm
BMC. Sicily, p 219, 624

 

Excellent Bing, good enough for me

 

Hi Pishpash ...

Hey, although my coin-opinions are often mocked and/or totally ignored, the coin description on my humble example is as follows:

Sicilia, Syracuse Agathokles AE23 (Hemilitron)
317-295 B.C.
Diameter: 22 x 23 mm
Weight: 9.7 grams
Obverse: head of Kore-Persephone left, wreathed with grain
Reverse: bull butting left, dolphin and above, dolphin below
Reference: SNG ANS 561-571



... hope this helps

Cheers

Oh => here is a CNG-link that has several examples (note that there are different tabs at the bottom)

https://cngcoins.com/Search.aspx?PAGE_NUM=&PAGE=1&TABS_TYPE=2&CONTAINER_TYPE_ID=1&IS_ADVANCED=1&ITEM_DESC=syracuse agathokles ae dolphin&ITEM_IS_SOLD=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2=1

 

Thanks Stevex6, I love the dolphins.

 

no problem ...

Yah, I guess my dolphin-example is actually a bit older than the examples that you three showed, eh? (my example is from 317-295 BC, while your examples without the cool dolphins seem to be from 275-216/5 BC) ... hence the different rulers (Agathokles and Hieron II)

... I seem to learn something new about my coins almost as quickly as I forget facts about my coins (it is always a new experience for me!!)



http://www.attalus.org/names/s/syracuse.html

... I found this link (now maybe I won't forget?)

 

Hi. Allow me to intrude. I'm asking whether the animal on the reverse of the following coin pertains to the same category as yours? Thanks..

 

Hmmm? ... sadly Charles, it's kinda difficult to tell (it is either a bull butting or a horse grazing?)

Cheers

 

Can you post the obverse please

 

... and the diameter and weight, etc ... that info always makes the hunt a bit easier, ol' chap (cheers)

 

Weight is 5.43 g. Diameter is 20 mm. Do any horses have corns. The obverse is of a much worse condition but here it is.

 

Corns? Do you mean "horns"?