ok, hear me out...

Vice grips, pliers, Sawzall, someone bored. But not the MINT!

 

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That explains the 5150. LOL
I can pick an Indian Head penny out of my coins, and then a 1981 (because it is still copper) and inflict the same damage that looks identical, but that doesn't make them a mint error.

BTW, retired detective, Sex Assaults, so I too question just about everything.

 

Former law enforcement here as well (U.S. Customs/Treasury Dep't.)

Also, the burden is on YOU to prove why IT IS.

The burden IS NOT placed on OTHERS to prove WHY IT IS NOT.

Your coin is not an error and is damaged.

 

What you did prove is you don't know the minting process for coins. If you did, this would be an easy call that takes 1 second to know why it isn't a Mint error...you've got some reading to do. I suggest this book...

 

Consider that since the die area that are raised are the areas that are going to push depressed areas into the coin planchet and counter to this, to make raised areas, the die portion doing that has to be depressed. So for the cuts in photo 3 would have to have a raised diagonal portion on the outer edge to make the depressed "cuts" appearance in the rim, which it could not do and pass initial inspection of the dies being used. Some people own their high pressure auto tools which can push a nickel into a copper cent and produce an odd effect, but it will show details "inward" ( since a real nickel details will be raised rather than "outward") , but people still buy them on Etsy and ebay until some one reports them. Hope this helps. Jim

 

These guys have been collectors for many many years as you were a cop no doubt. I have had these posts and one just like you have. The one I I’m posting, would you think this is done by the mint? I had a Lincoln as well damaged by players. Did a pretty good job! But if you read the process which these people here are trying to teach me lol. They are not trying to go against your opinion it’s just the facts unfortunately. Damage after the mint!

 

Yes for sure! Thanks for saying that Laurie! I agree, thank you for your dedication!

 

And as Laurie stated, thank you for your dedication to protecting.

 

And thank you for your dedication as well protecting.

 

Thank you Pam I am learning the different errors which are mint errors vs post mint errors. It bothers me that there are so many people out there trying to rip off new people or others who do not know the difference.

 

Yes and many have are presently lol are helping me. I’m not really a collector but I have grown interest in coins. A lot of pros here. At first I think we all have doubted answers but that’s in everything and everyone is new at one time and yes has to figure out and answer on their own at times. One can only say what they know and we go from there. And thank you as well!

 

Thank you for all of the responses I have received on this subject. And I think I may have found an answer in an odd place. While looking at a sealed mint set I have had since 1992, I looked at the treasury coin included. And what do I see:

These marks (which are similar to the penny I recently found) came from the sealing machine for the plastic. the coin was pressed while trying to seal it. So this could possibly be where the marks on the penny I originally posted also came from. About same size and shape.

 

Yes, and even though it’s in a mint sealed poly film, it’s not a mint error. It’s damaged. There are collectors that will buy these type errors for themselves but once a coin that was mis-sealed from that poly is removed from the packaging it just impossible to prove to a collector.

 

Yes! I had a nickel I had posted once and although it was the machine, it looked very interesting. And who knows, one to keep because you never know what one may want out there.