Advice on Ancient Hoard

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by 7Calbrey, Feb 11, 2015.

  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Hi. I've acquired this Roman coin of Emperor Diocletian which is one of a wide hoard. It weighs 7.23 g. and looks in a very acceptable condition and size. I need your assistance to decide whether I should keep on or stop collecting from that same hoard. Thanks.. DiocGenio.jpg DiocGenioR.jpg
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    If the coins you've posted in the recent threads are the ones from this hoard, they all look to be in excellent condition. Of course, cost has to play a role. But if those costs are acceptable to you, the coins look good to me. Now, if this Diocletian above is from a different hoard, it's not quite as nice as some of the other coins you've posted, but still a decent coin for sure.
     
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  4. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Thanks BG. The Diocletian above is one of 3 coins I've acquired from that ancient hoard so far. I've posted all of them here. The 2 others are of Maximian and of Galerius in the name of Maximian ( Carthage ). How much you think I should pay for each? Thank you..
     
  5. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Do you know the names of the Hoards and do you get any paperwork with the coin?
     
  6. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    By names of the Hoards , I understand LRBs or Ancient Greek or even ( Late Roman- Big Format ). The seller in the shop told me I can have a paperwork whenever I want. But so far I abstained because I'm buying from time to time, and by installments sometimes. I can even return any coin that had been proved as a fake. He trusts me and he's a neighbor near the office Where I work.
     
  7. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    If your coin has come from a named hoard, and you have the paperwork to back it up, your coin will have an increased value. When you have paid your final instalment, you should always get the paperwork.
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Large hoard discoveries are generally named, and generally named for the location of the find. Names such as Llanedeyrn hoard or Bourton-on-the-Water hoard
     
  9. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Usually, how many coins an ancient hoard can approximately include ?
     
  10. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Probably different in each country. I think in the UK it can be two silver/gold coins found together or 10 bronze, up to massive hoards containing hundreds or thousands of coins.
     
  11. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    The Hoard that included " Charming Eudoxia " and the Barbarous coin contains over 3 thousand coins. I saw it myself.
     
  12. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    @7Calbrey, where are you from, just out of interest?
     
  13. coolhandred

    coolhandred Member

    A documented provenance is always beneficial, and valued. If the coins come from a listed hoard, or a known collection keep the documentation. Pedigree coins from important past collectors sold at auction are worth a premium.
     
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  14. OldGoldGuy

    OldGoldGuy Members Only Jacket

    How many constitute a hoard?
     
  15. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    OGG..
    The answer is clear enough in the reply of fellow PishPash above.
     
  16. OldGoldGuy

    OldGoldGuy Members Only Jacket

    That answer was wishy-washy. Do you have a more specific definition or are you just acting as usher?
     
  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Wishy-washy or not, each country defines what constitutes "hoard". Any particular country you are most interested?
     
  18. OldGoldGuy

    OldGoldGuy Members Only Jacket

    If someone would be kind enough to break down the US definition, UK, French, Italian, Syrian, Egyptian and Israeli definitions, I would count that person as a positive CT Contributor.
     
  19. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    A hoard is defined as anything more than two coins found together in context. There are tiny purse hoards of four or five coins and massive hoards of thousands of pieces.

    Here is a picture of a hoard found in China with 2-3 tons of coins.
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    What Calbrey has is probably not a hoard, but rather an accumulation of coins, albeit possibly from the same site or general area. We can more accurately evaluate it if he provides us with a general list of rulers and types.
     
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  20. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I guess the hoard includes mostly LRBs. So far I posted 3 Eudoxia, one Barbarous and now here are 3 Honorius from that same hoard. Hope this could help a bit. 3Hon O.jpg 3Hon R.jpg
     
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  21. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    So I suppose that means the rest of us are not positive contributors in your mind? Tch, Tch
     
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