1921 Peace Dollar Grade and Variety?

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  1. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I ran across this 1921 Peace Dollar the other day going through some of the collection.
    One I had put away for a type set. What do you think she grades? and Since Peace dollars are not my forte ...whats going on with the word PEACE? 1921 obv. rev..jpg 1921 obv. peace.jpg Peace 1.jpg peace two.jpg
     
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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Not to detract from this nice coin but is that a hazing on the coin? If so it could be moisture related. All in all a nice coin with only a couple of small tics at the jaw but I'll let the others grade this.
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    No haze just bad led lighting off the scope. I did not set up my light box to shoot the images.
     
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  5. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Then that is a seriously nice coin!
     
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  6. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Looks to have been whizzed to me. Notice the dark spots next to all the relief points. Not a cartwheel look at all to it but its shiney.
     
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  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    polished, die deterioration
     
  8. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Looks polished, but maybe that's the microscope look?
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It looks to me to have some circulation wear, Paddy. It's not reflecting right, either. Sorry to be so nitpicking. That's just the way I am and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

    Changing the subject, where are you seeing "variety," is that in the lettering in the closeups?
     
  10. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Could be a die variation, but I would be more concerned about the polished surfaces. It has probably been whizzed--shame, as it would have been a nice coin.
     
  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I picked this up in a big lot of silver dollars years ago. Tucked it away along with a 34 D . Look at the letters in peace.
    Look at each carefully allow your eyes to adjust . The pictures are same except a few degrees off 90 center.
    All letters have some sort of doubling.
     
  12. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Paddy I dont think what your seeing is doubling.. I think it where the metal has been displaced during the battle with the buffing wheel.
     
  13. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Is there a way to get a different photograph of the coin, even a cell phone photo would probably show the surfaces better than the microscope. Maybe another photo will allow people to better see what you're seeing.
     
  14. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Once upon a time, there was a VAM 2 listed for 1921 Peace dollars, with doubling on PEACE. This has since been eliminated, since the coin showed strike doubling, and not die doubling. The appearance of PEACE for 1921 is always a bit strange, and that may have to do with last-minute modifications made to the models at the end of 1921. Roger Burdette's Renaissance books have more detail as to specific modifications made. Anyway, none of the 1921 VAMs listed have doubled dies. Many have die polishing lines as their diagnostics, which may be hard to discern on your coin, as it has been polished.
     
  15. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Yeah it was about 20 years ago I purchased a $500 bag of silver dollars from this older man. It was a nice lot mostly Morgan dollars about 6 o 8 cc ' s a 1893 O a very worn 95 S , some other semi keys, and only like 6 Peace dollars. One the 21 the other a 34 D I just put away in the vault . Until the other day taking inventory .
     
  16. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The pictures look really weird due to your lighting and photography technique. I'll guess the coin is EF.
     
  17. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    So hard to tell from those pics. It looks like it could have been a 63 to 64 type coin witha great above average strike but by those pics I have to say polished and rubbed.
     
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