What's going on with this 1935 Walking Liberty Half Dollar?

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  1. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    Sorry about the poor quality. Trying to get use to my new andonstar microscope. What going on with the T thru the D in United and S and States. All those bumps and also Doubling of some sort on the east side of the D and the north side of the ball between United and States. Guessing those bumps maybe common in this series but I have never noticed them like that?
     

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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I could guess at some die deterioration as being possible. I'll wait for the others to check in.
     
    tommyc03, Feb 11, 2015
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  4. cpm9ball

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    It could be die erosion (orange peel effect?) or leprosy.

    Chris
     
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  5. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    Chris leprosy was the first thing that crossed my mind :happy:
     
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  6. eddio

    eddio Well-Known Member

    I think it is due to grease the bubbling effect almost rippled
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Could you explain how that happens, please?

    Chris
     
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  8. eddio

    eddio Well-Known Member

    I said I think, not that I no..in Canadian coins that effect they call it rippled due to large amount of grease being left on die...
     
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  9. cpm9ball

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    Okay! Thanks!

    Chris
     
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  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That's not die deterioration, not the orange peel effect either. I have no idea what it actually is at this point but I would like to see a clear picture of the entire coin.
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 12, 2015
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  11. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    What I am seeing is raised (around the TED · S). Anything resulting from grease will be incuse on the coin. i.e. it cannot possibly be grease. I cannot understand how die deterioration could cause the bubble effect I see, but I suppose it might be remotely possible. On the other hand, that is exactly what I would expect the results of a rusty die to look like.
     
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  12. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    Best I can do is with the microscope even out of the case not much better. Sorry.
     

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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Rusty die ? Won't deny it's possible, but I have never seen a Walker struck with a rusty die (doesn't mean none exist though). And of the many, many, examples of coins that I have seen that were struck with rusty dies, none of them has ever looked like that. That is just weird, and I can't even begin to dream up an explanation - I'm baffled.
     
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  14. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    I certainly appreciate everyone looking at it. I know my pictures aren't very good. Very curious on what is going on there. I wouldn't mind someone on the forum to get it in hand and take a look at it. I pay for shipping both ways. Anyone want to take a crack at it?
     
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  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Hey? Pieces of the die were not there when struck. Grease etc. is not the answer. You cannot think of a better answer, so ........
     
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  16. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    No insult to Doug, but the person you would want to look at it would be @mikediamond. Hopefully he will stop in soon.
     
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  17. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    Thanks for the info. Doug has certainly forgotten more than I will ever know about the hobby. Hopefully Mike will stop by and see what he thinks.
     
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  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I would agree 100%.
     
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  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Ebola, quick call CDC
     
    Kentucky, Feb 15, 2015
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  20. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I believe that's from the planchet, not the die.
     
    eddiespin, Feb 16, 2015
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  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    It is raised. If it were from the planchet, the die would have flatted it.
     
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