Post your octopodes (ancient Greek plural of octopus)

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  1. ancientnut

    ancientnut Well-Known Member

    I haven't started a thread for awhile, so here goes:
    http://grammarist.com/usage/octopi-octopuses/
    There are plenty of fish, crabs, prawns, and other marine animals on ancient coins. Here's my octopus and I'll bet he's not too happy about being dragged along like that:

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    Tarentum, Calabria, AR stater, c 425-415 BC, 21 mm, 8.09 g, 5h. OBV: Nude Phalanthos seated left on dolphin, right arm outstretched, holding an octopus in his left hand; scallop shell below / REV: Oecist (founder) seated left on diphros (stool), with himation (drapery) around his waist, balancing wool distaff or spindle [“a reference to the famous Tarentine textile industry”, Vlasto in work listed below*] on back of right hand and holding aryballos or lekythos [pottery jar for oil or ointment; overflowing?] suspended by a string from left wrist. *Vlasto, Michel P., Taras Oikistes, a contribution to Tarentine Numismatics, NNM 15, 1922, page 175, Type No. 59A; Vlasto 256; Fischer-Bossert 280j (this coin; 10 specimens total from one obverse and three reverse dies); SNG ANS 860; Historia Numorum Italy III 844.

    Ex: Leu LHS Numismatik, Zurich, Auction 100, April 23, 2007, Lot 39.
    Ex: Dr. Athos D. Moretti Collection.
    Ex: Dr. Roland Maly Collection, Hess-Leu 19, April 12, 1962.
    Ex: Bank Leu, fixed price list, 1960, 49.
     
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  3. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    Cool coin, very unusual!
     
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  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh man, that's awsome!

    i don't have any octopods, octopi. :grumpy:
     
  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    What a fantastic coin! Tons of great things going on there.
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That is one fantastic coin Anut. Great devices and detail. Two thumbs up:
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  7. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Nice coin. As if the dolphin was not enough, it's got an octopus on it too.
     
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That's an envy-inducing coin!

    Evil octopus plotting to attack nymph:
    SicilySyracuseTetrasNymphOctopus-1000.jpg
    Sicily, Syracuse. Dionysos I
    390 BCE

    Æ tetras, 14 mm, 1.8 gm
    Obv: head of nymph facing slightly left, wearing necklace
    Rev: octopus
    Ref: CNS 29; SNG ANS 385

    I wish this one was nicer but the type is hard to find in decent condition-- hard to find in any condition. The reverse isn't too bad though.
    SicilySyracuseTetras-Hippocamp-Octopus.jpg
    Sicily, Syracuse.
    c. 425 BCE
    (during the Peloponnesian War)
    Æ tetras, 13 mm, 1.9 gm
    Obv: Female head right; XXX before
    Rev: Hippocamp right, octopus below
    Ref: CNS 30; SNG ANS 1382
     
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  9. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I am octopusless :meh:
     
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  10. ancientnut

    ancientnut Well-Known Member

    I forgot that I have another octopus - on the reverse of this Akragas hemilitron which I posted in an earlier thread:

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    Akragas, Sicily, AE hemilitron, c 420-406 BC, 25 mm, 16.15 g, 2h. OBV: Eagle with wings raised, standing right on hare, head lowered / REV: Crab, holding snake in claw; conch shell and octopus below, six pellets around. HGC 2---; SNG ANS---; Sear GC---. Unpublished in the standard references, but see Gerhard Hirsch Nachfolger Auction 296, February 13, 2014, Lot 1545.
     
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  11. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    How about a squid?

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    IONIA, Ephesos. 1st-3rd century AD
    PB Tessera (21mm,5.66 g)
    Squid
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    Gülbay & Kireç -​
     
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  12. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Quick question, how can you differentiate Tarentum, Calabria starters with Taras on the obverse from those with Phalanthos?
     
  13. ancientnut

    ancientnut Well-Known Member

    Both Phalanthos and Taras are described as a the mythical hero who founded the ancient city of Tarentum. I haven't been able to determine whether they are two different people or two different names for the same person. Reference books and auction catalogs describe the dolphin rider either as "Taras" or "Phalanthos", but some catalogers acknowledge the problem and describe him as "Phalanthos or Taras" or simply "dolphin rider".
     
  14. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    very nice coin,

    cheers

    eric
     
  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sicily, Syracuse AR Litra

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