antique mall score

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  1. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Back again folks and i am proud to show off my antique mall(of all places)score from today... 1921 PL morgan... has great mirrors and one helluva strike... not the best obverse on earth but i think its atleast a 63.. heres the best part: when i get home from tgi fridays i get to check for zerbe proof die markers... Yes photos suck as i havent even made it home.yet but w that said whatchya guys think??? CAM01076.jpg CAM01080.jpg
     
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  3. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Frosty devices for sure - looks like semi-prooflike fields from the pictures. Water spots kill it.
     
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  4. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Yep tjats the only thing i dont like...these 21s and peace dollars are notorious for those spots,,, was thinking bout acetone bath possibly but idk if it will help.... still... i couldnt resist this thing for $40... 1921s are my kryptonite

    Ps maybe ill get lucky and those spots are on the mylar....:mask:
     
  5. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    maybe dip residue
     
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  6. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    From the photos, I think the marks on the head would keep it back to 62. Perhaps a carefully performed dip would take care of the spots?
     
  7. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    but the strike/luster will bump it back up to . 63/+.... not to mention all 3 mints (san fran especially) are graded on a huge curve for this date.... ive seen some butt ugly 63/64 holdered 21s
     
  8. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    I've had MS69 ASE with waterspots - they just turn me off! Arent water spots considered distractions from a near perfect surface and if not how can they grade a waterspot coin at almost perfect when there are beautiful MS69 examples without any forseeable distracting marks?
     
  9. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Good point... i cant figure that out either... to me it ruins eye appeal big time.... which SHOULD be factored into the grade
     
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  10. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    I totally agree!!!!!
     
  11. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    New conclusion.. this is a greaser!! Those are NOT water spots!! This coin was struck thru grease... the left serif of A in dollar is gone
     
  12. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Grease in weak relief areas - YES water marks!!! UGH!!!
     
  13. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    You were saying......???? CAM01082.jpg CAM01081.jpg
     
  14. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Look next to.the N in united... id call that a weak relief area
     
  15. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    I guess only a duck would find a phantom water spot:)
     
  16. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Those spots on the obverse are recessed... i thought pvc damage at 1st until i noticed the.other clues
     
  17. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    A 62 with water spots looks like junk silver to me
     
  18. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Ok bill.... you are right.... ill just pretend that missing serif is a water spot too
     
  19. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Btw 1921 morgans are (pun intended)filled with more grease errors than all dates combined.... the mint couldnt care less about quality back then as their goal was to pump out as many of these as they could... 80+million to be exact
     
  20. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Nice find. I sort of still wonder if it could benefit from an acetone bath. Those spots are kind of a turn off to me, even if they are grease strike-throughs. :/
     
  21. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    With all the hits on the face, I'm not sure it would even go 62.
     
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