Proof & Uncir with same MM

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Mojavedave, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Here is one for you Commemorative experts (Such as Ken Green),

    How do you tell the difference between the Proof Gold & Uncirculated US Marshall coins both with a W mintmark.

    Same as with the Silver dollar with a P mint mark for both the proof and uncirculated. ???

    Dave
     

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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Very simple! Read the COA!

    Chris
     
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  4. McBlzr

    McBlzr Sr Professional Collector

    When you lay them side by side the Proof mirror surface is more obivious.

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  5. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    I expected something better from you Chris
     
  6. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    The same way you would tell the difference between proof and business strikes of all coinage prior to 1968.
     
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  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    US Mint site also offers this information
    all coins unless it's a Bullion coin.
    &
    Google also is a good idea if there's no COA
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It's simple. I'm trying to think like a novice.

    Chris;)
     
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That's your answer Dave. With very few exceptions, a Proof is easily distinguished from a business strike just by quickly looking at them.
     
  10. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Well Doug, These tired OLD eyes see a MM better than a guess. I think the problem started with the West Point Mint making proofs & uncirculated coins both with the "W" MM.

    Dave
     
  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Mirrored fields on the proof Dave. More satiny ones on the uncirc..........
     
  12. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    satiny - Gezz Ken, I had to look that one up. I'll save other's the trouble. Satiny having or resembling the soft usually lustrous smoothness of satin <a satiny finish
    Thanks for the lesson.

    Dave
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    You'll definitely see the difference while viewing the coins side by side. The '86 Statue of Liberty gold coins were also both minted at the West Point facility.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Even with tired eyes it's pretty easy Dave. With a Proof, you can see your reflection in the coin. With a business strike, you cannot.
     
  15. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Even if it's a "proof like" coin ?
     
  16. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Yes.

    Especially with today's coins.
     
  17. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    I can pretty much see todays proof coins as having outstanding finishes, but what if a proof gets taken out of it's protection and falls into pocket change. I would expect it to become tarnished to the point of indistinguishable from other common business coins.
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Many of the features of a proof coin will remain visible until the coin wears down to a F - VF grade.
     
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