two new budget coins

picked up a couple of budget ancients.

here's a rough provincial i couldn't say no to for the price. provincial, has serapis and good legends...sold.



philip ii
mesembria, thrace
pentassaria(?)
244-246 ad
26mm
12.7g
o: busts of philip and serapis; M AR IOYLIOC PHILIPPOC/KAICA, R below
r: athena; MECAMB RIANWN
Moushmov 4032



and some recent post here of elymais coin forced me to get this example. yes, all you folks who have posted these lately. IR. DS. i'm lookin' at you.




i'm not sure on the attribution...could use some help. seller has this as ordes iii, but THINK it is ordes ii. anyone know?

here's my story...

Elymais
Orodes II
2nd century AD
AE Drachm
17mm
4.2g
O:Bearded facing bust; crescent and anchor to r.
R:Aramaic legend around bust of Belos.
Van’t Haaff Type 13.1.


and who is this belos cat? a babylonian god is all i come up with. but check out that bust? he looks like a worm with horns.

close up with different light...



anyway, i didn't get this coin fro cheap..but reasonable. i thought the bust looked pretty darn good and it was well centered, despite missing a bit of anchor.

 

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Elymais attributions are a moving target. Yes, the latest research (Van't Haaff) has this as Orodes II.

 

Nice coins, who is IR?

As far as attributing the Elymais goes, Doug may be better right now. I just ordered the catalog and should be getting it sometimes next week.

 

The reverse of the Philip II, Athena looks bearded?


BTW, nice coins.

 

lol! that's exactly what i thought!

 

I guess great minds think alike and eyes see the same.

 

Some nice coins. I thought she looked beard too lol.

 

Actually, the more I look at it, the more it looks like Gandalph. I'm sure of it.

 

I'm going to imagine that the reverse legend translates as, "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"

 

Wrong kind of hat. It does seem to be worn in all the right places to look that way though.

 

Rasputin?

 

Good lookin' coins Chris, well done..

 

Both very nice, congrats!

 

awesome additions, chrsmat (bravo & congrats!!)

I like "both" of your new scores ... sadly, I don't have an Elymais example (*sigh*)

... ummm, but I think I may have a cool Phillip II & Serapis Æ Pentassarion kickin' around here, somewhere? ... ah yes, here it is!!



MOESIA INFERIOR, Marcianopolis.
Philip II. As Caesar Æ Pentassarion
AD 244-247
Diameter: 27 mm
Weight: 13.73 grams
Obverse: Bareheaded, draped, and cuirassed bust of Philip II right, facing draped bust of Serapis left, wearing calathus
Reverse: Serpent coiled left; E (mark of value) to right





... great new coins, brother (congrats)

 

Well Steve, it's time to join the Elymais coin club.

 

thanks guys.

i remember that coin, now that's an awesome philip and serapis....dig that snake!

 

Nice coins, both of them! Whenever you can get a provincial with that much detail and clear legends, it's a no-brainer. I have Philip I and Otacilia Severa with confronting busts, from Markianopolis, Serapis on reverse.

One interesting facet of these provincials is how the legends wind around. Your coin and Steve's have legends that run counterclockwise and continue in exergue from left to right. This coin has an obverse legend that does the same, but with two lines in exergue. The reverse runs counterclockwise and when it runs out of room, it continues in the right field from top to bottom...

 

... and Serapis is on the reverse rather than the obverse ...

(that's a cool coin, JA ... the vertical letters on the reverse are also very interesting ...*edit* oh, that's where you state the legend continues ... yup, very cool)

Curious that Chrsmat's cool coin doesn't have an "E" on it (the mark of worth)

... hey, let's shun him (good plan?)

 

Chris's coin is a smaller denomination. The E on our coins indicates a pentassarion.

 

Hmmm, could be?

But his sweet example is fairly similar in weight to my example ...

26mm versus 27mm
12.7g versus 13.7g

Hey, but I don't know enough to "ever" put my foot down and claim that I know much more than "cool coin"

I like you guys