What would you pay for this?

This is listed on my local facebook thrift site. He said he'd take best offer. What would you pay for it?

 

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I don't do currency, but it looks like possibly ink transfer from a bill underneath. I personally wouldn't pay any premium.

 

Can we get a pic of the other side Pilkenton?

 

I'll try to find the front pic. If not, the front was normal.

 

A better enlargeable pic would help, but I'd stay away. Can't see the Treasury seal, the FRB seal is reversed properly, but the 11s look like they're not printed backwards. I'd say it's a poor job of a post-BEP attempt at creating an error.

Can you post the link?

 

If you can't get an image of the face, at least post the serial numbers and district from that side of the note, as there can be other notes already identified as a real or fake error coming from the sheet of notes, which are printed before being trimmed out and put in straps. Such errors are easy enough to fake, so you need to have all the details to assess such notes.

If you can't see both sides of the notes in a an auction listing, and full margins (all edges) are not shown, just stay away. You probably wouldn't bid on a coin if you couldn't see both sides, right?

If these are your pictures, then make sure to show all sides of the note so we can see the full note, determine how well the printed parts are centered on the note wihtin margins and the condition of all edge to know its grade. The best way to image a flat printed object like this is to place on a flatbed scanner and place a dark sheet behind the note to help define all margins.

 

Aren't these imprinted from two different steps?

And isn't the black seal inked at the same time as the serial numbers?

If so, where are they?

Not a currency expert, by any means, just my opinion.

 

I would check with Fred Bart, a currency specialist.

 

It is very simple to cut out another dollar bill's seal, glue it to a piece of paper, put it in a copier, tape a normal dollar note to a piece of paper and put in the copier's paper feed tray so when the seal copies it will print onto another dollar bill, you can also erase the seal on the front with a normal eraser. I'm not saying that this what this is, it looks like a wet ink transplant, but it is best to see the bill in hand beforehand or have better photos to look at.

 

I'm not sure if you've ever tried this, but you're making it sound WAY easier than it really is....especially without destroying everything around what you're erasing (the paper for instance).

 

I have never ever tried it, I just read something online about it. That is what I figured.

 

Steve is right. It's harder than you might think. It requires chemicals and virtually no abrasives. But how do you remove the seal without affecting the serial numbers, if they are printed with the same ink? Easier said than done.

 

Nice try but that dog don't hunt! That just looks too made up in my book.

 

From what I've read here, I think you're safe offering $1.

 

From what I've read here, I think you're safe offering $1.

 

Hmmm...now that we know it's Series 2013 and therefore a LEPE overprint, it occurs to me that I don't actually know exactly which parts of the overprint are applied in which order on LEPE. It's entirely possible that this is what offsets of the overprint look like when LEPE produces them.

On the other hand, it's entirely possible that it's faked, too. It'd be nice to have more information about just how LEPE works. (Does anybody know about this?)