Mystery Ike

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by cheerful16, Jan 14, 2015.

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What is this?

  1. Cleaned coin caused a positive bleach test for silver

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  2. It's silver, probably a PMD coating/plating

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  3. Holy moly, it's a '74-P silver! Get that sucker to PCGS asap!!!

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  4. Maybe a silver planchet got to Philly somehow....

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  5. NO IDEA

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  1. miedbe7

    miedbe7 Wayward Collector

    What Rick is showing you is his first reported, discovery specimen of a variety of coins known as doubled dies, or in his specific case, Class II Tripled Die Obverse (TDO). The IkeGroup has their selected varieties, including doubled dies, and are known as DIVAs. Think of them as the Cherrypicker's Guide to Ikes. Actually, some DIVAs are in the newest CPG (the FEV for example). What is shown in the above is from Ike Dollar Doubled Die, or IDDD, and is a site which documents almost every major/minor/obscure varieties of Ikes' doubled dies. PCGS as a grading company will only attribute varieties found in the Red Book and CPG to my knowledge and ANACS will attribute basically anything. Hope this helps!

    PS-You can get good close-up photos with a smart phone and a macro attachment which sells on ebay for about $10 or you can buy a USB scope (overkill imo unless you want to look for these varieties yourself) for about $20 and it zooms to ~200x if memory serves. I haven't used mine in a while to be honest.
     
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  3. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

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  4. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    The coin has more than likely been silver plated.
     
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  5. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    IF the coin were struck on a silver medal planchet of nearly the same size as the IKE Dollar, the weight would be heavier than 22.9 gms.
     
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  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Depending on thickness look at her side by side shots the coin in question is a tad bit thinner :)
     
  7. cheerful16

    cheerful16 Ikes! It's a load of Ikes!

    good spot! I might need calipers or something...
     
  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Even a blind pig finds the truffle :) lol.....
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Case in point the shield nickel weight 5 grams comp. .750 copper .250 nickel Dia. 20.5 mm vs Liberty nickel 5 grams comp.750 copper .250 nickel however dia. Was 21.2 mm. That difference of .7 mm thickness made the Shield nickel harder to strike using the same comp. Of copper and nickel. .7 mm thickness does not seem a lot but it was as dies only got 10,000-12,000 strikes before they exploded .
     
  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Could of been but if it was it must of had a heavy plate. As silver plate wears off fast in thin layers. So high points from wear would show signs of lost plating.
     
  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    FYI the one vote for the silver platchet was yours truly :pompous:" I've seldom been wrong ,but never been right........ ask Jerry Garcia
     
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