Mystery Ike

Let me help you out a little bit, since your new to coins, if your coin doesn't have the " spoke " effect, when you move it, back and forth, its been cleaned, thats why I said it looks like a " Shield " ...

 

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possibly...do you think that would lead it to have the bleach reaction that silver has?

 

LOL at me! Here I am Googling "Captain American Shield coin" Haha! I am such a newb. :-D Thank you for explaining!

 

I sure hope so, LOL!

 

I think what your seeing is a " Haze " effect, cleaning solvent can do that, to me, looks like they left it on to long, and burned the coin, thats where the " Haze " come in ..

 

I don't know what the 'bleach test' is, but you probably shouldn't apply bleach to your coin. It would be less destructive, abeit not ideal, to take a thin sample on a touchstone and acid test.

 

yeah, I did this before really knowing better. I've tried the sample-acid idea with a different coin and couldn't get it to work out. The ice-melting test was inconclusive, so I tried a Q-tip on the edge and couldn't tell if there was any change because of the reeding. Understandably a Q-tip of bleach to the obverse was NOT my finest moment...but it was conclusive. That's when I almost wet myself for what I'd done.

 

Possible. It was my first survey option. Any way to gauge this type of history? Also do you know of any video or anything to show the spoking thing you mentioned earlier?

 

heres a start https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eOktXkO-TSc

 

Thank you! I was having a hard time finding a video there.

 

I think the reference was to cartwheel luster, seen on a coin with uncirculated, lustrous surfaces. You can see an example here on a Peace dollar. It rotates around like a spoked wheel I guess he means?

edit - beat me to it lol

 

my guess was that it had been cleaned too. I guess since I thought it looked so silvery on the edge, I tried to determine if it was silver using the bleach. You can almost see the tiny darker mark it made under ike's neck. That's different from the overall haze though....

 

I like to try and help out, when I can ...

 

Here's my stupidity on display...the bleach mark below his neck so you can see what I mean.

 

If you like ikes, heres a good one for you, and yes, its mine, its a TDO ( triple die obverse )

 

Theres some scratches in the field, another give away for a cleaned coin ...

 

Ok, help a girl out here...where's the tripling? Maybe the tripling just looks like a bad picture, lol. I don't usually have trouble with DD or such stuff in person...Maybe what you said references something totally different though. Enlighten me, and thanks for sharing!

 

sure, heres the listing for it
1974 D CN Obverse
Discovery Coin: IDDDO-1 74D New IDDDR-MH/MD-DDR IDDP-1

Cross Reference: None Known.

Attributed by: IDDD Thomas Kalantzis.

Class: Obverse Class II Tripled. Reverse Master Hub/Master Die.

Submitted by: Richard Stachowski.

Description: Class II tripling seen on many letters of IN GOD WE TRUST. Wide split serifs and doubling seen on the rest of the letters. Wide but mushy spread on the upper left serif of the 1. Tripling on the 7. CCW spread on the T and Y of LIBERTY. (Earlier die stage/die state may show a small CCW spread on all of LIBERTY)

Reverse Description: Master hub/ Master die DDR.

Marker: Obverse Full R in LIBERTY. Eye pocket die scratches. Scratch to the left of thee last T of TRUST running SW/NE. Die scratch to the left of the R of LIBERTY running SW/NE. Die crack starting at the rim to the left of the one in date meandering onto the one, continuing NE through the 9 and 7 ending at the 4 in date. Reverse: Type 3. Dot sized die gouge inside and to the upper right of the O in DOLLAR.

Date Recorded: 12/5/2013, CD.

Population: 1.


Comments: Obverse Stage B, has been abraded due to cracking on the die (Serfice crack at the base of the one in date). Mr Stachowski has the honor of being the first collector to send in the first tripled working die (TDO) for the 1974 D minted coin.
IDDD has reorganized the price values - the economy has affected values on many dies.

Unless indicated with a star * the values are just a guide. As increased sales are reported to IDDD tighter values can be established.


* indicates recorded price coin sold in the indicated grade and die stage.


Stage A EDS - - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 000. . MS66 325.0. MS65 000. . MS64 000. . MS63 000. . MS62 00. . MS61 00. .
Stage B MDS - - Pop 1. MS68 000. . MS67 000. . MS66 300.1. MS65 000. . MS64 000. . MS63 000. . MS62 00. . MS61 00. .
Stage C LDS -- Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 000. . MS66 275.0. MS65 000. . MS64 000. . MS63 000. . MS62 00. . MS61 00. .

Population: 1.
Top Pop: MS66 Anacs 4402086.
First reported by: Richard Stachowski.
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Arrows point to tripled split serifs.

 

Heres the rest of the images

 

WOW. That's awesome! I'd sure love to be a first submitter. Very cool. Do you have a scope or were those images you had from PCGS?