wanna know what people think of this and its worth

gunnern79
You need to understand what Chris posted here. The rim of the coin is upset (raised at the rim) before the coin is struck. It can't be on just one side of the coin. The blank side of the coin does not have an upset rim. It had to be removed after it was struck. It can't leave the mint looking like that.

 

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I could make something that had the exact weight and a blank side by metal spraying. I have had ships propellers renovated with this process to remove tiny pockmarks caused by cavitation, and if you ground off a coin and micro sprayed it with metal from the same type of coin as the feedstock there would be no metallurgical difference and you could get the weight as exact as you wanted.Including the upset would be one more machining process, but possible.

It's not easy,as in home workshop easy, but it's reasonably cheap and technically possible.

The same process of micro deposition could be used to add mint marks, for that matter. The metal is vapourised and deposited as electrically charged atoms, so in theory it could be done as microscopically as you could build the fitting to do it.

 

Like this:

http://www.linkvillecoins.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2108

One other issue, $48,000 is a ton of money for this coin even if it was real, which it's not. Just one more detail that seems far fetched.

 

please tell me the best coin show to take this coin too. where the right people can see this coin an give it the proper go over the coin deserves.

 

Here is a us cent going through the same error you think your coin is:

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=186923&whichpage=1

Note the discussion about the ghost image and the rim.

Additionally, here is a link to a Canadian one which is probably ground off, like yours, listed on ebay as real for around $800.:

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=192249

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CANADA-ONE-...to-1952-VERY-STRONG-ERROR-COIN-/271732593169?

 

You have good images. That's great. You should join the PCGS and the NGC forums as well and post it there. The experts there will give you the same information the folks here are offering here. Wish you the best.

 

Copper scrap box

 

I am almost embarrassed by posting this. A few years ago I thought I had a similar error cent like yours. Turns out it was Post Mint Damage. Someone grinded the reverse side off. It looked so good I sent it to NGC and they returned it. Learned my lesson! Also, you say someone offered you $48,000? There are many major error coins that are known that are not even worth half that much! Are you sure you haven't heard about the LOBERTY Penny?

 

I'm not trying to be negative, and I have not been nasty toward you. I gave you my honest opinion of this coin based on my error collecting experiencing. I'm 67 and I have been collecting since I was 10.

It matters not to me that the University of New Brunswick tested this coin. Do they have the numismatic credentials to authenticate such a coin? Probably not!

Chris

 

Fred Weinberg is one of the most well-respected error dealers in the country.

http://www.fredweinberg.com/

Chris

 

Please try to understand our point of view.

You: "I have this one-sided penny, how much is it worth?"

Us: "Probably not much. It looks like it was damaged. Here's why we don't think it could be an error coin."

You: "Oh, I forgot to tell you, we got its exact weight, diameter and elemental composition at a university, and oh, yeah, someone already offered us $48,000 for it."

Us: <starting to get a little bit skeptical>

See, the thing is, people come here all the time asking about odd coins. Quite a few of them have coins with one side ground off, or coins that have been damaged in other ways. We try to explain. Sometimes, if it's the third or fourth damaged coin that day, some of us will get a little short with the new poster; that's not good, but we're folks having conversations, not paid professional consultants, and some of us can be a bit abrasive on our best days.

When a beginner starts to argue with people who are much more knowledgeable, yes, the heat can get turned up a little bit.

This is especially true when the beginner starts to make completely unbelievable claims about what he's been offered for the coin. That happens from time to time; we had one poster who kept at it for years, no matter how much evidence we presented to the contrary. (He said he'd been offered seven figures for a coin that was worth at most a thousand or so; I think he was holding out for eight figures.)

You've got every right to challenge people here, of course. It's just that making dubious claims, and rejecting advice from knowledgeable members, isn't likely to get you taken seriously.

 

tell instead of typing and losing track of the real issue this is my numberEdit, do not post real name, address, email or phone #, as it will encourage scams. Use 'conversations' pls if someone would call i will talk which is way easier.
robert

 

Robert,

If you insist on believing the coin is and is worth (at least) what you claim, it shouldn't matter to you what anyone here thinks. Common sense dictates that arguing with people who've no interest in what it is you're trying to sell a waste of time; your efforts would be better served by either contacting a dealer withexpertise in this area, or better yet, coughing up the money to have the coin certified, which is probably something you'd want to do anyway if the coin were, ahem, genuine. If you've so much confidence in the coin's authenticity as a genuine error of such great value, the cost of certification is a literal drop in the bucket. While I personally believe you are in for a disappointment, I still wish you good luck.

 

which company would you suggest that would be fair and honest and not simply take it in a back room and exchange for a rubbed or filed off penny and say here you go this is yours i personally don't want it to leave my sight.

 

pcgs or ngc, either would be a good option. if you don't want it to mail it, take it to one of the big shows (baltimore, chigago, fun, long beach) they all do on site submissions. They have graded far more valuable coins than you coin, even at the inflated $48,000 level, they are not going to steal it...

Kudos to paddyman for submitting his and posting the results, very uncommon...

 

Risk a job for 2.5 cents worth of copper?!? Absolute, best post ever!

 

jay4202472000 its ppl like you that deter good ppl like myself from even speaking or asking ?'s. therefore i know that you have never been burned in any deal ever in your life and so you would not know what it is to be cautious. can also tell there has been no military in your background. this thread is over i think you are nothing but a pompous @&&.

 

Robert, there is no TPG that will let you (physically) walk it through the grading process because they all have security procedures that must be followed. For that reason, I don't think there is anyone here who will be convinced that the coin is authentic.

I think you are being paranoid. About 10 years ago, NGC was responsible for conserving and grading the SS Republic gold and artifacts. I don't think a company trusted with tens of millions of dollars in gold would stoop to trying to cheat you out of a coin that, in my opinion, is only worth scrap.

By the way, what does one's lack of military service have to do with this coin? I was in the service (as well as some others here) before you were even born.

Chris

 

i was in the military as well you so that is why i am cautious.

 

thank you for taking the time i am going to go to this coin show when it comes to Toronto feel free anyone to come there and see me and the coin and maybe by than it will be graded. it was nice to learn from you and thank you for serving. CPM9BALL