Putting aside the fact that it's a fake coin that is actually being sold, this is just a very confusing listing to look at and read. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1797-Silver...2264028?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item35e308afdc "XF-50, cleaned", two different weighs and denominations described, mismatched info. Another of their listings describes a coins as Extra fine (EF) MS-68 LOL
The one in the last photo is the one actually for sale as far as I can tell. The other pictures are ripped from elsewhere. Very confusing listing as I said
1st photo is a real coin, which is not the one being sold. Other 2 photos are different bad copies photos. The best part is the last line of the description: "Its actually a very good copy. No returns No refunds...." 1. Seller is a moron. 2. Some people still don't read the entire description, even on CT, it seems.
I'm thinking it takes some creativity to make a listing so bad, it's hard to imagine anyone is stupid enough to make this without intention to do so. I think seller is hoping all the confusing things make people miss the punch-line about the coin being a copy. It's like the listing is designed to catch a dumb buyer and gives enough to keep away buyers that know better (a.k.a. problems after they receive the coin).
Why doesn't ebay do something about this scum? "It is genuine and certified. Pictures are for example, Only 3 pictures are of actual coin. Actual coin pics can be taken for serious bidders only. Bought at estate auction from Russian-American widow. Hand made, stamped by hand at this time. So, Coins may differ."
I loved this part: So the good NGC pictures are "samples" of a similar coin, and then there are 3 pictures of the real coin...or not depending on which part of the above statement you believe, and/or how serious you are.
I see all of you missed the Circulated MS 68 example for sale http://www.ebay.com/itm/1725-Ruble-...4524558?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item35e32b2e0e
Last line on the listing says: This coin is a fake. I have to mention that. Why listings like these aren't immediately taken down and sellers like these banned, I'll never know. I understand it's a difficult issue, but it only tarnishes eBay.
ok that was my laugh of the day, gotta love ebay...at least they guarantee satisfaction probably the reason you should buy from legit coin dealers, especially if you are not very experienced as a collector yet
My favorite listing is from a guy that circulates through the same facebook forums Im on. He posts a pic of a "1943 copper" and tried to get a value on it. (Its clearly a 1948 with some work to it.) And being the nice guy I am, I explain it to him that its a 1948, with as much sarcastic drive as I was born with, to the point he is sending me videos, in a complete fit, wishing the worst for me. Anyway....... A few days later he lists the docked 48, with a start bid price of $10,000, for the PICTURE. lol
Here is the part I cannot wrap my head around; this is not a cheap coin, or an extremely popular coin. For example, it is not a 1909 VDB, which is a highly collected and relatively affordable coin. The person bidding on it is A) spending a decent amount of money and B) most likely semi-educated on these. How does the seller think that by burying the dirty facts in a sea of NGC photos and babble that when the buyer gets the coin, that they aren't going to immediately seek a refund? And isn't it just blatant nonsense that the coin is described as "certified" yet the only picture I can see shows the seller molesting it raw in the palm of his/her hand?
Well this type is actually very popular for collectors of Russian imperial coins, but yes those that collect them are generally well educated on this type and will not fall for this cheap trick. I just though it was amusing in how majorly screwed up this listing is. I don't even consider it a threat in the sense that someone will get ripped off. I'm posting it here for comedic value more than anything else.
That's pretty shady. Most likely someone in china. But it does say other metals besides silver in the description. So i'm on the fence.