I almost never buy gold... but I did.

I don't know how anyone can look at the closeup comparison of the LIBERTY in the last pictures posted and not think this is a fake. The genuine one is an AU50 and looks so much better than this one, which was estimated to be AU. This one appears washed out, or eroded. Just mushy overall.

 

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So, what did you decide to do?

 

Photographed it, returned it, and taking the pics to Orlando to discuss with ICG & NGC.

 

Awesome. Let us know what they say! When is that again?

 

3 days from now!

 

Hey look, I am not one to gloat. I truly meant that from what I saw, it was fake. However, if the seller is that open with their response, then yeah, its fake. However, it isn't like you got TAKEN on the price as far as the melt value. But, if you never buy gold, and you were making your first educated numismatic gold purchase, its time to get your refund, and then hit them books some more bud.

You just learned the cliché coin collecting lesson, with no consequence. That's like getting pulled over the day before your 21st birthday with an open bottle of booze, and getting followed home by the police to your parents house where you are made to look like a dunce in front of your parents. All similarities to persons living or dead is purely coincidental and/or unintentional.

 

I didn't like the sloppy details on it didn't really feel right but is not a series I know well. Some of those old real gold fakes are tough as they circulated too especially the Arab ones that were done for believable circulating gold currency that people trusted the country of origin. It would have scared me at least from the pics but again not my series. Hope to find out for sure

 

This is a valid and sometimes overlooked fact. I have a friend who was severely burned purchasing a decent number of key date gold eagles that were in VG-F condition. I told him that I didn't like that someone was offering 8 of the same date, relatively rare coins in that condition. They were almost uniformly worn. Or worn the same exact way. If one of these coins were sold individually I think the chances of someone catching it in hand is low, and through pictures on a forum, not a chance. Comparing two of them with a loupe (and then all 8 was the mindblower) revealed they all had an identical matching shape between a few of the letters. Fail.

 

Ok, so I took the pictures of the coin to the show and here's what I found out. "Very likely a fake." No one wanted to commit since it wasn't in-hand, but it was suggested that the obverse was "worked over" or "tooled and/or smoothed." No one found anything wrong with the reverse based on the pics, which was why I think they were somewhat non-committal. Anyway, everyone's advice was "stay away."

 

Pretty much what I thought. Some of the guys on here who were saying it was good need to reconsider how well they think they know their gold.