mystery roman coin with swastikas?

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  1. tobiask

    tobiask Well-Known Member

    Hey guys, I found this coin for 10 $ in the "low grade bronze bin" and I cannot find any information on it.
    All I can identify on the reverse middle is "VOT" and 3 swastikas underneath, inside of a wreath.
    Any ideas on identification ?

    Thank you for looking and for your help, fellow collectors.
     

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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    They are X's, not swastikas.

    Swastikas are not common on Roman coins at all, especially imperial ones. They are very common on central Asian and Indian ancient coins, though, and be found on Greek coins.
     
  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sweet => that's a nice $10 score ...... but "yes" they are "X's"
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The Xs represent vows taken by the emperor for a certain number of years. The number below the vota can vary.
     
  6. ancientnut

    ancientnut Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]
    I recently sent my daughter photos of coins in the upcoming Triton XVIII auction, including this one and she said she liked it, especially the reverse with the very detailed female head "inside what looks like a swastika". I laughed, but she's right!
     
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  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Swastika is easier to say than quadripartite incuse punch.
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That is a beautiful coin. I do not know this coin in particular, but I am assuming it is a Roman Republican. What you are calling "swastika" are very ancient symbols used in many cultures. The Nazi's gave it a bad name.
     
  9. ancientnut

    ancientnut Well-Known Member

    The coin is actually one of the earliest types of tetradrachm struck by Syracuse c. 500-490 BC.
     
  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Even older than the RR. A coin like that will go for plenty I would imagine.
     
  11. ancientnut

    ancientnut Well-Known Member

    It's already at $24,000 and could easily bring a bid of $50,000.
     
  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    One of a multitude of drool-worthy coins in Triton. I hope to successfully bid on one or two coins in that auction. :)
     
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  13. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Completely agreed: http://www.winsociety.org/newsletter/vol-7/swastika.html
     
  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, these two examples are as close as I could get to similar swastika-punches ... cool enough?

    bull siglos.jpg nymph.jpg
     
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  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    This thread got a bit off track. For the sake of the OP, I'll post a similar VOTA type of Constantius II...

    constantiusvot.jpg

    The seraphs on these X's are completely intact.
     
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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    :cool:

    ... *stevex-edit*
     
  17. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    You're going to upset medoraman; they're not actually swastikas despite how closely they resemble them. :)
     
  18. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I think he was referring to different coins. But which Romans have swastikas? Not any Imperials that I'm aware of. Any Provincials?
     
  19. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Whoops, sorry, I meant to quote the post above yours! Please disregard.
     
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  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => ooops ... oh well Seattlite86, hopefully medoraman will cut me some slack? (I merely got caught-up in the hoopla!!)

    ;)
     
  21. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Haha, I don't blame you one bit. I'm guessing if he didn't correct you as of yet, then you haven't drawn his ire. :)
     
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