I almost never buy gold... but I did.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by C-B-D, Dec 30, 2014.

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  1. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    ok, I call NGC and tell them its fake.
     
    bkozak33, Dec 31, 2014
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  3. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    If you would actually show the star I was circling, we might be able to talk about it. Hard to compare when you do not even show the same stars ;). I am not talking about all the stars touching... show the 4th star from the bottom, and lets compare
     
    jwitten, Dec 31, 2014
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  4. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    When I said 2nd star from the left, I was referring to the 2nd in my close up picture. It is actually the 5th from the left total. Please show a close up of that one.
     
    jwitten, Dec 31, 2014
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  5. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    That's good information. They do wander off mine.
     
    C-B-D, Dec 31, 2014
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  6. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    the 5th one is not even near the headdress
     
    bkozak33, Dec 31, 2014
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  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

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    C-B-D, Dec 31, 2014
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  8. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    ok

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    bkozak33, Dec 31, 2014
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  9. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    My apologies, 5th from left starting at the head dress. 4th from right I believe.
     
    jwitten, Dec 31, 2014
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  10. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Also, include a close up of LIBERTY on the head if you can, I want to compare that too
     
    jwitten, Dec 31, 2014
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  11. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

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    C-B-D, Dec 31, 2014
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  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    WHOA!
    So I just messaged the seller that I was taking it to the FUN show to be seen by the experts after the CT crew questioned it's authenticity, and here's the response I just got:

    "hi very sorry they are most likely right no need to go to the coin show
    you can return for a full refund very sorry for my mistake
    thank you and look forward to doing business in the future
    kindest regards ally : )"
     
    C-B-D, Dec 31, 2014
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  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Kinda seems like the seller knew it was fake? This is my biggest red flag so far. This seems like an atypical response from an eBay seller...
     
    C-B-D, Dec 31, 2014
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  14. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Compare these stems. One is straight, on is bendy as heck.
    w1.jpg w2.jpg
     
    jwitten, Dec 31, 2014
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  15. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    How much did you buy it for? I would still be interested in hearing the experts though. Do you have time to have it seen, and still have time to file a claim if need be?
     
    jwitten, Dec 31, 2014
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  16. xCoin-Hoarder'92x

    xCoin-Hoarder'92x Storm Tracker

    An AU coin should not have sloppy lettering in the middle of the coin. I don't own gold myself but I'd definitely have a couple pros look at your coin.
     
    xCoin-Hoarder'92x, Dec 31, 2014
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  17. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    WOW.. ..[emoji54]

    I hope everybody posting earlier in this thread comes back to read this. ^^^
     
    Vess1, Dec 31, 2014
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  18. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I paid $600. If I take it to Orlando with me, I believe I'll be right at the end of the window for returning it.
    As a side, has anyone ever documented the die varieties considering there were 8 obverse dies and 9 reverse, and the mint had so many coins come out bad that year? I'm starting to be seriously swayed, but would still love to see that.
     
    C-B-D, Dec 31, 2014
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  19. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    OldGoldGuy said earlier this was a terrible fake, (to me it looks feels and weighs quite authentic) but if it is, I wonder if one like this has ever been fully documented before? If it is fake, it should be completely documented and probably added to the book referenced earlier! I don't want to get stuck with it, though. Maybe if I just work on getting it weighed to the .001 oz and photograph each element of both sides before returning it? Idk...
     
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    C-B-D, Dec 31, 2014
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  20. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Send email to seller, ask for a little extra time to be brought to the show and then returned if necessary. I'm sure PCGS and NGC would like a peek at this coin too if this is a fake they have no seen before.

    Lots of high rez photos while you still have it in-hand!
     
    geekpryde, Dec 31, 2014
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  21. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Oh come on! Take it to the show and get a professional opinion.
     
    19Lyds, Dec 31, 2014
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