How much over spot are you paying for pre-64 junk silver?

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  1. Just curious what other are paying over spot for $1 face of pre-64 junk silver coins at their local shop. My recent purchase was $1.34 over not including tax.
     
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  3. snewman

    snewman Active Member

    With silver today at $15.91 an ounce, that makes one dollar (face) of 90% silver worth $1.15 in silver. That's about 15% over spot. I generally see about 10% over spot as a going price in stores, but have seen 15 and even 20%.
     
  4. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    You get taxed? I've never been taxed for buying coins ever
     
  5. Bret Swanie

    Bret Swanie Member

    Taxed on coins? We are not supposed to make political statements so I won't. :bag:
     
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  6. jlogan

    jlogan Well-Known Member

    Flea market charges tax :(

    I've been paying 13.5x, planning to buy $89.00 face for $1,200.00 tomorrow.
     
  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Are you sure?
     
  8. snewman

    snewman Active Member

    Yep.. Had a decimal in the wrong place. Should be $11.51, not $1.15.

    Here's my math, using a 90% silver dime for the weight and $15.91 /oz as the price.

    grams % silver ounces price per Qty Price
    2.5 0.9 0.072339 1.150916 10 11.50916

    One dime is 2.5g which when converted to ounces (at 90%) is 0.072 oz per dime. That times $15.91 is $1.15 per dime, times 10 dimes to get to $1 face, is $11.51.

    Because the OP said he paid $1.34, I thought he went back to price per dime.
     
  9. jlogan

    jlogan Well-Known Member

    i think he meant $1.34 over the spot price. with a spot price of $11.51, he paid $12.85 per dollar face value, which is a great deal.
     
  10. Mr. Flute

    Mr. Flute Well-Known Member

    I paid $14.90xface two weeks ago, but that ~30% premium allowed me to cherrypick the better coins.

    Otherwise, it's usually around $14xface. That's mainly due to my sellers selling out their junk quickly because there are apparently still many buyers.
     
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  11. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    Why are you paying tax? If you go to a bank and buy 1.00 worth of coins do you pay tax? Only taxed is if coin used in jewelry anywhere I've been! They're ripping you off go to a legitimate shop.....
     
  12. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    Depends on the state. While many states exempt bullion (as well as numismatic coins for that matter) several others don't. You pay sales tax just as you would for any other item you buy.
     
  13. mill rat41

    mill rat41 Member

    In Indiana, all coins and bullion are taxed. When I ask the dealer for a price, they often say "tax included". If I drive across the border into Illinois, there isn't sales tax.
     
  14. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Probably because it's the law in their state, not everywhere offers tax free sales.
     
  15. WLH22

    WLH22 Well-Known Member

    In WI you also pay tax on purchases of all coins, junk silver and bullion. If you buy online you are to include the payment with tax return.
     
  16. Teddydogno1

    Teddydogno1 Well-Known Member

    ...and that happens, HOW often? : ) WA also "expects" its subjects to voluntarily submit "use tax" for ANY purchase made out of state or even in state where it is not already collected, such as yard sales and flea markets. Yeah, right.

    Rob
     
  17. Well that answers my question. I am from Wisconsin and wasn't sure if tax should be added to bullion purchases.
     
  18. Teddydogno1

    Teddydogno1 Well-Known Member

    But WA does not charge sales tax on coins, stamp or bullion purchases. IIRC, Nevada charges sales tax on any bullion that has government denomination or face value on it. So Eagles and Maples carry tax, generic rounds and bars do not.

    Rob
     
  19. jlogan

    jlogan Well-Known Member

    In MO you only pay sales tax on coins if the total is over $10,000.
     
  20. xCoin-Hoarder'92x

    xCoin-Hoarder'92x Storm Tracker

    13.2x face value for pre-1965 silver.

    For Bullion Silver rounds and such, generally 10% over spot. At today's prices I don't mind paying more. I'm remembering what rounds sold for at coin shops 2 years ago, and this sure as hell beats those prices.
     
  21. Just grabbed some today 13.5x face which includes tax.
     
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