1956 Lincoln penny with Adam's Apple

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Carlos Arriaga, Dec 19, 2014.

  1. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    Can be this one a DDO? because the double neck, and Double E?
    Thank for your comments. 1956  Lincoln  Rev.jpg 1956  Lincoln  Ober.jpg
     
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  3. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Looks like die chips.
     
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  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I agree... normal product of die use and wear.
     
  5. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

  6. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    If I am seeing right, you even missed a die crack on the shoulder.
     
  7. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    Yeeep. Look between the eye and the ear also. Seem like die crack.
    1956 P Lincoln DDO 003.jpg
     
  8. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    My SMOKER LINCOLN. also shows THE APPLE'S ADAMS. But seem like it's coming from the Path of traveling inside of the Die.
    111992 Smoker .jpg
     
  9. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    That looks to be a linear plating bubble.
     
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  10. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    I pressed enough that "bubble" all ready; but there's no air enough to create a little explosion. My next step will be THE ROCKWELL TEST to see how much pressure support. I will do the same with other pennies of the same year. over the # 1 or the I.
     
  11. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    It's a linear plating bubble (on the 1992 that is).
     
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  12. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    NO QUESTIONS ABOUT. thank a lot for your comment. Yep It's the BIE ERROR.
    I just learned that.
    With a Scale Lupe. also I checked The length and wide of the cigar on the 1992 Smoker Lincoln. The results are 0.050" and 0.010" Most of the normal cents are 0.045" to 0.055" (Not all of them have the same length), and 0.010" wider.
    But absolutely, THE ROCKWELL TEST will be the best.
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2014
  13. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    What's the Rockwell test? Where you check to see if it looks like Lincoln was painted by Norman Rockwell????


    (sorry, couldn't resist)
     
  14. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Good luck. I know nothing else to say. Goodness, these threads are great!
     
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  15. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    The Rockwell Test. Prove the Hardness and Tensile Strength of each material. SURE I'LL DO FIRST WITH OTHER CENTS. To set up a standard answer. With pressure enough but gradually controlled ANY BUBBLE will show a weak result.
    The 1956 is a BIE ERROR any way. Thank again for your help.
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2014
  16. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Ok, so you are going to intentionally pit coins (see how strong the coin metal is by seeing how much force is needed to make a pit or indentation in it) to determine what strength it takes to do that on various coins, and then once you get those results, you will do it with this coin.
     
  17. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    I started all ready. IT'S FUN. With 4 - 1972 and 3 - 1971 Eisenhower dollar's The lower penetration was C 46 in a 1971 and the higher penetration was C 59.5 in a 1972 both with the same amount of pressure. and exactly in the same area (spot).
     
  18. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Actually, its the rare Abe Eating Mike n Ikes variety. I thought it was the misplaced 1 variety, but Abe does look a bit peckish.


    I was gonna put a disclaimer on this comment, but it would take the fun out of it.
     
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  19. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    IT'S NOT. When the planchets arrive to the Die. They are all ready Plated. The Linear motion in this 1992, is related with the Strike of the coin itself; normally at 55 Deg or 35 Deg. what ever sound better for you.
    Plating Linear motion.jpg
     
  20. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    My standard answer is all ready. 10.5 C (penetration) with a pressure of 1 complete turn. Done in a WILSON Rockwell tester. It's the same, touching the #1 and also on flat areas. All of them had the same answer.
    Standard reaction 003.jpg Standard reaction 002.jpg Standard reaction 001.jpg
     
  21. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    I'd like to say 'now I've seen everything'. But if I have to judge from the times I've either said that or thought to say that, I'd be wrong. I think there will be plenty more opportunities to come across a situation where that saying comes to mind.
     
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