1942 10 Pfg Getto Fake or Real ? Your opinion.

---OR--- Maybe not. The luster looked right, but there are those little blobs inside the number 4 in the date! And also some lumpiness to the fields in the bottom half of the coin.

 

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These bumps and lumps are a perfect match to another example from a Stack's auction some years back. As I've never seen these imperfections on coins that were actually circulated, I suspect they may be restruck later from rusted/refurbished original dies.

Edit: The coin I was referring to that matches the die markers is made of copper and was attributed as a "pattern". So that just makes things more confusing.

 

If you can find similar flaws on a fake and on your coin, then it should be a fake. Here is a link with some fakes, I'll leave the in-depth comparison to you, since it is your coin...



Website with photos of fake items from Litzmannstadt Getto
http://www.litzmannstadt-getto.com/?p=115

 

Here is one with similar flaws, €8.51 and a closed account... http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,0216970609,language,E.html

$1047 is a lot if it is a fake... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1942-ICG-MS...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Hard to find a decent photo of a real one...

http://wcn.pl/foto/sklep/high/2810.jpg

http://wcn.pl/foto/40/high/40_0734a.jpg
http://wcn.pl/foto/40/high/40_0734r.jpg

http://wcn.pl/foto/39/high/39_0641r.jpg
http://wcn.pl/foto/39/high/39_0641a.jpg

 

It never didn't?

I am also of the mind set, where I prefer not to preserve any item with certain negative emblems or connotations. Doesn't bother me when it interests others for historical reasons.

 

I think I saw your photo, don't you have blond hair and blue eyes? I don't know, winning this argument doesn't look good for you.

 

can someone please give me the list of countries that have nothing in their past to be ashamed of so i can figure out what is politically correct to collect?

 

At least they are coin related. You know how much garbage one has to sift through on certain days, just to find a coin related post on CT.

Yeah, I can tell you how this barbaric salvation continued well into the 1990's. Clueless much?

 

See if you can find any coins from ATLANTIS.

 

Uh oh.

 

Finland maybe?
Iceland? Up until recently they hadn't had an armed robbery since 1918. Oh wait...they produced the psycho music artist Bjork. Nevermind!

 

Karelia, early 1940s? But of course Finland as an independent country is relatively young (<100 yrs). Iceland? Sounds good, except for the whales, and the Icesave issue ... Trust me, you'll find something.

In my opinion, things get - somewhat - questionable if our purchases support an existing regime, e.g. expensive proof PM pieces from, say, North Korea. That is not the case here.

Christian

 

you might want to google Finnish Civil War...

 

Well my country is still innocent of any dubious activities in the past.

Here's a picture of me representing the Nation of Joe (me) at the last Olympic Games



Nation of Joe currency: #1/- Snacker = 100r Tin Rappers

 

Grand Duchy of Luxembourg?
Some island states in the Pacific?
<end of list>

 

Isn't Luxembourg very near that infamous Grand Duchy of Fenwick, that infernal little European pipsqueak that declared war on the United States in order to get reparations?

 

Well I have blonde hair (used to) and blue eyes. What a freakin'n bore.

 

Fantasy coins from non-existing places

 

Yes, in a movie made in the United States, things may work that way. But of course a relatively small country is less likely to do or have done things "to be ashamed of" ... Let's try and keep three things in mind:

While a holier-than-thou approach is hardly ever a concept that works in politics, making a huge lists of "countries that acted badly in one way or another at some point or another" is not helpful either. If the latter resulted in an approach that puts brutal dictatorships and temporarily rotten governments in the same boat, we have not learned much from or about history.

A dictatorial or authoritarian regime is more likely to redesign coins, notes, etc. than a basically democratic country that does awkward things (Manifest Destiny, Vietnam). So a coin like the Litzmannstadt ghetto pieces will be more interesting for some because it shows the connection to a regime and a specific period right away.

The third thing ... errm, maybe we should split the topic. Will meditate and ponder for a while.

Christian

 

... and here I thought you were on the right track with praise and all...

... I don't know.