Little Romans - Trajan quadrans

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  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    For all the right reasons most of us drool over those beautiful big Roman bronzes, the sestertii, but how about some love for the little guys, the semisses and quadrantes who seem to fall through the cracks (literally and figuratively). I'm guilty of overlooking them too... I've had this Trajan quadrans for a few months now, but only just today deigned to commit it to photograph.

    This is one of the issues with the bust of Hercules rather than Trajan on the obverse. One variety shows the Erymanthian Boar on the reverse. This one, which seems a little scarcer, shows the club of Hercules.

    If you've got any little Imperials, semises or quadrantes, here's the place to post 'em!

    Trajan quadrans hercules400.jpg
    TRAJAN
    AE Quadrans
    2.7g, 14.2mm
    Rome mint, 98 - 117 AD
    RIC 699; Sear 3249
    O: IMP CAES TRAIAN AVG GERM, bust of Hercules right, wearing lion's skin
    R: Club, S-C on either side.
     
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  3. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    My only quadrans

    Domitian Ae quadrans

    Obv:- IMP DOMIT AVG GERM, Bust of Ceres left
    Rev:- S-C, Bundle of three poppies and four corn ears
    Reference:– RIC II new 243 (R). Cohen 17

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  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Very nice! This is not one that I've seen before.
     
  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yes, I have one, and it's in very nice shape, and I got it for cheap because it's countermarked with what appears to be a university collection stamp. It's a bit of a curiosity for that reason...the idea that counterstamping an ancient coin was once an acceptable way to indicate possession. :confused:

    Roman Empire, Anonymous, Domitian to Antoninus Pius
    AE Quadrans, 3.25g, Rome mint: AD 81-161
    Obv.: Diademed and draped bust of Venus right.
    Rev.: Dove standing right, S-C.
    Reference: RIC II 24 (p. 218)
    Notes: Countermark "AU" in field above dove, possibly from a university collection.

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  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Interesting piece. The S-C is in a rather unusual alignment too.
     
  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Btw, I don't drool over the big bronzes. I have a few, to be sure, but when I've gone out of the way to buy coins for their size, I've always been more intrigued with the minute bronzes. Here's my largest sestertius next to a tiny coin of Ephesos...

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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I've always liked these little quadrans. Yours is very nice as are all the others on this thread.
    Trajan 9.jpg
    TRAJAN AE Quadran
    OBVERSE: IMP CAES TRAIAN AVG GERM, diademed bust of Hercules right with lion-skin on neck
    REVERSE: Boar walking right, SC in ex.
    Struck at Rome, 98-117 AD
    2g, 14mm
    RIC 702

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    AUGUSTUS AE Quadran
    OBVERSE: IIIVIR AAAFF, altar
    REVERSE: P BETILIENVS BASSVS around SC
    Rome 5 BC
    3.0g, 17mm
    RIC 465

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    AUGUSTUS AE Quadran
    OBVERSE: LAMIA SILIVS ANNIVS, clasped hands holding caduceus REVERSE: III VIR A A A F F around large S C
    Rome 9 BC
    3.0g, 15mm
    RIC 420, BMC 200, S 1693

    ANONYMOUS Roman.jpg
    ANONYMOUS Æ Quadrans
    OBVERSE: Winged petasus
    REVERSE: S-C, winged caduceus
    Struck at Rome, Late 1st-mid 2nd century AD
    15mm, 2.36g
    RIC II 32
     
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  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Fantastic new addition, Z-Bro ... I'm lovin' the ol' club (congrats)

    Augustus, Æ Quadrans
    Moneeyers Lamia, Silia and Annius

    Date: 9 B.C.
    Diameter: 17 mm
    Weight: 2.79 grams
    Obverse: LAMIA SILIVS ANNIVS around Simpulum and lituus
    Reverse: IIIVIR AAAFF around S.C.


    Augustus Simpulum b.jpg Augustus Simpulum a.jpg


    ... a couple of slices of pepperoni, anyone?

    :rolleyes:
     
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  10. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That's a really nice collection of them. The Augustus is great!
     
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Thanks! Another nice Augustus... I have to get myself one of these.
     
  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hey Z-Bro, I know that you wanted examples of a Roman quadran, or a Roman Semis ...

    Ummm, but does a Semis from the Roman Republic pass the scrutiny-test?


    Roman Republic
    Post Reform Æ Semis (Anonymous)

    Circa 88 BC
    Rome mint
    Diameter: 21mm
    Weight: 5.96 grams
    Obverse: Laureate head of Jupiter right; S (mark of value) behind
    Reverse: Prow of galley right; S (mark of value) above; to right, dolphin downward, ROMA in exergue


    AE Semis a.jpg AE Semis b.jpg


    ... yup, good ol' Saturn on the Semis ("S")

    ;)
     
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  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Oh, and why be so picky ... do you have something against these cute lil' AE dichalkon babies? (why are you shunning these poor lil' AE buggers from Egypt?)

    ... it's one big melting-pot nowadays, brother Z ...

    ;)


    Trajan, Bronze dichalkon
    Roman Provincial Egypt, unpublished variety

    98 - 117 A.D.
    Struck: Alexandria mint (29 Aug 113 - 28 Aug 114 A.D.)
    Diameter: 13.7mm
    Weight: 1.23 grams
    Obverse: no legend, laureate head right
    Reverse: rhinoceros walking left, L I-Z (= year 17) above

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    => go on dichalkon ... go run and play with the rest of the lil' AE coins
     
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  14. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Well, I picked up one of these Alexandrian dichalkoi the other week, so there was going to be another post for them, but why the heck not... play on!
     
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  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    How about Quinarii?
    M. PORCIUS CATO.jpg
    M. PORCIUS CATO; GENS PORCIA AR Quinarius
    OBVERSE: M • CATO • PRO • PR, wreathed head of Liber right REVERSE: Victory seated right, holding palm branch over her left shoulder and patera in her right hand, VICTRIX in ex.
    Utica, Africa 47-46 BC
    1.4 g, 13 mm
    Cr462/2, Porcia 11

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    AUGUSTUS AR Quinarius
    OBVERSE: IMP VII CAESAR - Bare head right
    REVERSE: ASIA RECEPTA - Victory standing left on cippus, holding wreath and palm, snake on either side
    Uncertain Italian Mint 29-27 BC
    1.7g, 13mm
    RIC 276, S 1568
     
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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hey, wait a minute!! => get those dirty little "AR" kids out of the pool!!

    :eek:


    ... just jokes
     
  17. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice! Again, I like the Augustus very much. I don't have any quinarii and had forgotten all about them.
     
  18. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Bing, this is a very interesting coin, but the attribution is incorrect. Also, it seems to be an error coin. The inscription on the obverse is SISENNA MESSALLA IIIVIR, and on the obverse, APRONIVS GALLVS AAAF. But if you look at RIC I, pp. 76-77, it would appear that the legends on your coin are reversed! Your coin would be RIC 463 if SISENNA MESSALLA IIIVIR was paired with the SC, and APRONIVS GALLVS AAAF was paired with the altar. As it is, your coin is not recorded in RIC. I know you've got RIC, so check it out when you get a chance. Very interesting...
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Errrr ... eh-heh-heh ... did somebody say Quinarius?

    :penguin:

    Allectus. Romano-British Emperor, AE Quinarius
    “C” mint
    AD 293-296
    Diameter: 19 mm
    Weight: 2.72 grams
    Obverse: Radiate and cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: Galley left, with mast; waves below; QC


    Allectus a.jpg Allectus b.jpg


    ... yup ... good ol' Quinarius "Q"
     
  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Yeah, I'll have to check it out. This is one of the very first coins I purchased back in the 1980's and it came with the attribution which I never bothered to double-check. Thanks for the heads up.
     
  21. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice detective work!

    The footnotes for RIC 447 has further clues:
    "CBN 777-8 lists as imitations two coins with AAAFF on Galus Apronius obv. and IIIvir on rev. with, respectively, Messalla Sisenna and Sisenna Messalla. These do not look obviously imitative, and the transposition of AAAFF and IIIvir may be due to simple confusion in minting a thoroughly permutated series."

    This would to account for Bing's coin, except that his is APRONIVS GALLVS rather than GALLVS APRONIVS. Nevertheless, I think 'mint confusion' is a good explanation. That's a ridiculous number of permutations!
     
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