Seated Dollar opinions: cleaned or not?

Old light cleaning? Harsh cleaning?



What do you think?

 

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Hard to tell in the plastic. I see scratches, but I simply do not know if they are on the plastic or the coin. From the color I am guessing at some point it was dipped, but PCGS is saying its market acceptable color, and I would agree.

 

IMO, it's an old light cleaning and has retoned. Look at all of the dark rings around everything and the light fields.

 

Nice seated 1871 half Pcgs sealed & graded???
we can not see surfaces to really say Ya or Nay
If coin was not in holder we could do better.

 

Cleaned and retoned, also too many scratches. In my opinion, it should not have graded cleanly.

Mike

 

yes you can see the scratches, but I still like looking at it. seated dollars are so expensive so maybe you can get a good deal on this one.

 

Btw, anyone else notice that coin is not an XF? its an AU all day long IMHO. The reason I mention that is two fold; one, did PCGS net grade this coin down for the old cleaning, or two, anything think it might be a fake?

 

It's a net grade IMO

 

If those scratches to the left of the date are on the coin, I do not think it should have graded.

 

Agreement

 

Some of the hairlines are on the slab and go beyond the rims. But some don't and it seems they've net graded it to XF.

 

I see absolutely nothing wrong with that coin.

I also think it is accurately graded at 45 (due, mostly, to the absence of luster).

That is the type of coin I would seek out for my collection, and would be willing to pay a strong price for. That is a very attractive, original-looking coin.

 

I think that lack of luster sir is showing you it was dipped at least once. A coin in that grade should have much more. Its attractive, nice grade, but original? Not so much. Better than blazing white, I grant you that.

 

Me I think net graded it's got a lot of scratches especially the ones to the left of the date. Retoned nice tho Imo shouldn't have graded clean. Is an au -55 by the wear. I wouldn't buy it just cause I couldn't live with the scratches. As common of date it is I'd wait for a real original one even if is got a bit more wear

 

No, the lack of luster is showing you it has honest wear. The somewhat thick toning also tends to impede the appearance of the luster. Has it been dipped in its past? Who knows. All I know is that you can't tell that with any certainty from the appearance of the coin - it is "original looking," as the great Mark Feld would say. I have a dozen half dollars with similar appearance that are as original as you'll ever get.

As for the scratches to the left of the date, I'm not convinced those aren't on the slab itself. An in-hand look would quickly clear that up.

If that coin isn't original enough for you, what is?

 

I'm with you on the color looking good I love the color. If all those scratches are on the slab its a nice coin I just can't tell if there on the coin or slab. They looked to be on the coin tho when I looked

 

I do not own many SL dollars, but own an XF with more luster than this, and I freely admit it had been dipped. This coin is an AU, and as such should have much more luster if "original". I like the coin, like the details, would be proud to own it. I am just saying its not totally original, at least IMHO. Btw sir I own a lot of SL halves myself, maybe 5-6 dozen. They were my specialty when I collected US coins. I only say that to demonstrate its not that I am unfamiliar with what to expect for mid 19th century silver coinage.

Just my opinion like i said. I like the coin, but believe it was cleaned, and the lack of luster is why its not in an AU slab. That coin is WAY better than a 45.

 

My only (non altered) seated dollar is an xf 40 with totally original surfaces. It has no luster just good original gunmetal gray color except on the high spots where it's lighter due to wear. It has far more wear then this one This has some of the same look is there any chance of getting some better pics to see if the scratches are on the slab. Is a solid blue label pcgs where I feel they were more consistent then the newer shaded label slabs

 

Congrats on getting a real nice coin! The grade is a combination of obverse/reverse #'s and seems fair to me."Cleaning" is no longer a mortal sin like it was before, and ALL coins were at least washed in soap/water during the "germ scares" in the old days(1918 flu anyone ?)....