Guess the Assigned Grade--1887 Morgan Dollar PCGS

I'll go 64 , just because that's what it looks like in the pic . But we all know how pics exagerate the hits so it could be an easy 65 in hand .

 

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By how you describe the coin , it sounds like a + grade could very well be warranted .

 

Don't think so. I think it is a solid 65, but not a 65 plus.

 

I voted 64 because she had her eyebrow ring ripped out. But overall pretty clean, 65 wouldn't be any surprise.

 

This is the type of coin that back in the day would have received a split grade--63/65. Since those are no longer given I called it 64.

 

What year is "back in the day?"

 

Early to mid 80s as certification was getting started. ANACS quite often used split grades on their certificates.

Edit to add: Just noticed that the thread title asked to guess the PCGS assigned--not our own grade. To the best of my knowledge PCGS never gave split grades.

 

I figured you were referring to the ANACS split grades in the 80's but just wanted to verify. I usually ask for the PCGS assigned grade because we have several members on this forum who personally use ANA grading standards as opposed to TPG standards. But I like when people guess the TPG grade and then provide their reasons for why they would personally assign a different grade. It keeps these threads lively.

 

I think without that chatter in the left obverse field it's a 66. Because of that Id call it a 65.
Very nice coin nonetheless

 

In a PCGS holder, I would say 64. In an NGC holder, same thing provided it has a 6 digit submission number. All bets are off if it's in an edge-view holder from either service, probably 65 in that case.

 

So you are saying that if it resides in an old holder MS64, but if it resides in a newer holder MS65? What is your personal opinion of the grade? I only ask because you are claiming that the TPG standards have changed, but I assume that your own standards have not.

 

Paul, it sounds like he's grading slabs instead of coins.

Chris

 

I went with 65. Luster looks great and the hits on the obverse don't seem too bad.

Mike

 

I was thinking 64+ .

 

That could be--the eyebrow thingy could be enough to bring it to the 64ish. I will stick with 65, though.

 

Too many ticks for a 66 and too much luster for a 64. 65 or maybe a 65+.

 

I went 64 is a common date with no cc or rare date bump and I feel the hits on the cheek and throat keep it out of 65. Almost went 64+ but they don't give + grades often I'd say a 64 and it would green bean too

 

I vote 64 due to scratches on obverse field and Liberty's face and neck

 

It seems clear from the results of the poll that people think this coin is either a good MS64 or a low end MS65.



My question is that if this coin was graded during the 1995-98 time period, and everyone believes that it is correctly graded or slightly overgraded now, how can PCGS have loosened their standards in 2004?

 

I like it as a 65. Grading services have loosened and tightened repeatedly throughout their history, but that one looks accurately graded to me.