What would this grade?

I have this very nice 1878 s Morgan dollar. I can grade but when I get into au and unc I'm lost. What would you say this coin grades? Also see my thread in the errors forum about the cud on it.

 

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Looks like it has unc details but has been cleaned and has retoned.

 

Looks to be AU-55 to me. Thanks for posting the pictures

Ben

 

It looks MS-63 or 64. However, I agree it has the washed out look of being previously cleaned.

 

XF, no luster unless you count the cleaning.

 

I have to contradict Treashunt: you're saying it has to have luster to be AU55 or AU58? I have a NGC AU that really doesnt look like it has much luster.

 

I don't feel that way, but the TPG'ers do.
I have several Barber dimes & quarters that are easy AU-58's, barely a rub, but slabbed (and bought as slabs) as XF-45's.
So, I agree & disagree.

 

Looks somewhere between XF - AU to me.

 

XF 40, possibly cleaned, but tough to be sure from the photos.

 

I'd say damaged by a bad dipping/harsh cleaning, net XF-45

 

After further review, something doesn't look right. I didn't look closely at the reverse image the first time around, but in doing so the dentils look odd, and the level of detail on the obverse and reverse is quite different. Harsh cleaning and cast counterfeit are two things I'd be wary of...Mike

 

It has had a very harsh cleaning, about 500 rpm's worth.

 

cast counterfeit: I wouldnt know one if I saw one. Another reason to stick to PCGS and NGC slabs.

 

Question: This coin was purchases about 25 years ago, why would anyone bother to conterfiet a coin worth only a few bucks?

 

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