Another fake for you to ponder

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I agree with you. Those divots in the field on the reverse are a pretty clear giveaway. The tooling spikes coming from the rim don't help either...Just send him a link to this thread. Let's see if he shows up to defend the counterfeit coin.

 

Certainly looks fake to me!! Maybe the seller thinks it's a proof, who knows. Maybe he really thinks it's real. If he really thinks it's worth that much then why hasn't he had it graded? He could get a lot more money if it was graded.

 

You can just mention that it's being discussed here. Maybe he will show up and we can help the guy become a more studious numismatist... Maybe not...

 

Can the rest of us have a lesson on why this is fake?

 

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Ok, the top coin is at least genuine by PCGS, cleaned and no number grade but it is in a genuine slab. So pic number 1 and 3 are the real coin. If you look at the denticles and the edge of the questionable coin #2,they look fake, too prominent and edgy and they look slanted in some parts. As far as the reverse goes, the details in the leaves aren't there like in pic #3 and the whole wreath looks mushy. I hope the pics come out in the right order, the real coin is slabbed. Oh and what Matt said about the divots on the reverse and the tooling spikes around the rim. Besides, just look at those heads, too many differences to name. lol

 

Downtown alley coin

 

I'm not saying it's real , but a lot of type 3 $1 gold coins have mushy features . I bet I can go to Heritage and find one with worse details then this one .

 

Here's one from Heritage on auction now .


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I think the biggest giveaways are the tool lines coming from the dentils at 12 o:clock on the reverse that Matt mentioned . Another thing I don't like are the dentils themselves and the rim . I do wish I knew more about gold fakes , but my interests are in silver coins like Trade dollars and Bust halves .

 

I sent him a link to the thread and recommended he take it down. We will see what happens.

 

Good for you. Let's see if he comes on here and defends his coin.

 

Look at the eye in both photo's !

 

The seller states in his reply that the coin is worth "well over 2500" yet starts the bidding at 1450. In the body of the listing they also note the coin has sold before for $37k. Hmm

The above along with the defensive stance the seller took almost immediately suggests he/she knows it's a fake. Regardless, their reply was very unprofessional. Thank you for bringing this to our attention so that we could block people like this.

 

You spotted a great example here and I also noticed that turned up 5 in the date as well. I wonder how it was made and whether it's actually made of gold?. I'm hoping the seller pops up so I can ask him if it was tested for gold content. If he's bold enough to re-list it, I'll ask him on ebay.

 

The listing ended. Agree it's a fake.

 

Excellent resolution. Thanks for bringing attention to this coin.