Ancients => Good ol' CNG Wednesday => Yup, Cha-Ching!

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  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    First of all, I'd like to thank TIF for not bidding against me on this baby!! (she e-mailed me and gave me the heads-up that she'd seen my name and therefore decided not to bid on this sweet archaic winner) ... thanks again, TIF (now I owe ya "two")

    ... anyway ...

    I love this cool new coin from Thessaly, Larissa .... oh and yes, I realize that I just recently bought another Thessaly Larissa example ... funny the way that seems to go, eh? Once I buy a coin from an area I tend to look around for another one or two examples before I wander off down another coin-avenue (like a sheep grazing in a field until something scares it off) ... I threw-in that sheep analogy for you, Bing


    ;)

    THESSALY, Larissa, AR Obol
    Circa 460-440 BC
    Diameter: 12 mm
    Weight: 0.90 grams
    Obverse: Horse advancing right; above, head of lion right
    Reverse: Λ [Α] RI around from upper left, Larissa standing right, balancing hydria on raised knee; to left, lion’s head fountain right, from which water pours forth; all within incuse square
    Reference: BCD Thessaly II 358.1 (same dies)
    Other: 9h … VF
    From the BCD Collection


    Thessaly larissa Horse & Larissa with Hydria a.jpg Thessaly larissa Horse & Larissa with Hydria b.jpg


    Oh and as always => please post any coins that you feel might be relevant to this thread (Thessaly coins, horse coins, coins with lions spitting water, coins with people carrying jugs, coins with jugs, etc, etc)

    ... ummm, or really anything that you want to post (I like you guys)
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    It's an interesting coin! I'm glad it went to someone in the family :)

    As for related coins I own, hmm...

    Thessaly: nope, although one is currently stuck in the black hole of Customs
    Lions spitting water: nope but I wish!
    Coins with people carrying jugs: not sure, don't think so

    Clearly I need more coins!
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice pickup, I like the reverse most.
     
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  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => TIF, please make sure that you read my last comment (post anything you want!!)

    ... man, I can't believe you don't have any coins from Thessaly!!
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hmmmm? ... speakin' of Thessaly ...

    => I have a few more sweet examples (you may have already seen 'em?) ...


    THESSALY, Pharsalos. AR Hemidrachm
    Mid-late 5th century BC
    Diameter: 14 mm
    Weight: 2.88 grams
    Obverse: Helmeted head of Athena right
    Reverse: Head and neck of horse right within incuse square
    Reference: Lavva 31 (V21/R19); BCD Thessaly II –; Moustaka 51; SNG Copenhagen 217-8
    Other: 12h … lightly toned
    From the Demetrios Armounta Collection

    Thessaly Pharsalos.jpg


    THESSALY, Larissa, AR Obol
    CIRCA 460 BC
    Diameter:
    Weight: 0.75 grams
    Obverse: Bull’s head and neck, with half figure of hero to left, grasping bull by the horns; above, lotus flower
    Reverse: Λ - ΑR - Ι Head of bridled horse to right; all within incuse square
    Reference: Liampi 1996, 1A

    Thessaly Larissa Obol Bull & Horse.jpg


    THESSALY, Larissa, AR Obol

    Circa 460-440 BC
    Diameter: 12 mm
    Weight: 0.90 grams
    Obverse: Horse advancing right; above, head of lion right
    Reverse: Λ [Α] RI around from upper left, Larissa standing right, balancing hydria on raised knee; to left, lion’s head fountain right, from which water pours forth; all within incuse square
    Reference: BCD Thessaly II 358.1 (same dies)
    Other: 9h
    From the BCD Collection

    Thessaly larissa Horse & Larissa with Hydria.jpg


    THESSALY, Homolion, Æ Dichalkon
    Circa 350 BC
    Diameter: 17 mm
    Weight: 5.07 grams
    Obverse: Head of Philoktetes right, wearing conical hat
    Reverse: OMOΛI KO[N] around from lower left, serpent coiled right
    Reference: Rogers 263; BCD Thessaly II 92
    Other: 7h … dark brown patina
    From the BCD Collection

    Thessaly Homolion.jpg


    THESSALY, Oitaioi, AR Hemidrachm
    Circa 360-344 BC
    Diameter: 16 mm
    Weight: 2.83 grams
    Obverse: Head of lion left, spear in jaws
    Reverse: Herakles standing facing, holding club
    Reference: Valassiadis 3; BCD Thessaly II 489; SNG Copenhagen 181
    Other: 11h ... find patina, minor roughness

    Thessaly Oitaioi.jpg


    => man, ya gotta love the 4th & 5th Century BC, eh? (yummy)
     
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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice! I've been wanting one of these lion-head fountain coins for awhile. Yours even has two lion heads! There are honestly few things cooler than a lion head spitting water.
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => I know, right?!

    Yah, I love my new coin-addition (oh, and I always love it when the archaic coins have that cool silver-crystalization thingy goin' on ... yup, I'm definitely a sucka for that look!!)

    :rolleyes:

     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Yours is a lot nicer than mine but even a second rate example can add information on the legend in this case. Mine was very flatly struck and never had anything like the detail on the new example.
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow => I love it when you have one of my coins (makes me feel like I may be on the right track!!)

    => you're 100% correct => you're coin-artist seemed to think that the most important part of the coin was the "legend" (*rats* => I wish I had all of the Greek letters)

    Thanks for posting and commenting, Doug => I'm always amazed how many coins you have (you answer almost everybody's questions with a sweet answer and a handful of example-coins!! => you're our mentor, extraordinaire!!)
     
  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.


    Okay then. Here's my Julius Caesar (ancestor of "the" JC) with Cupid biga. Those things weren't very aerodynamic.

    CupidBigaFail.gif


    I'm expecting a Thessalian League stater but it has disappeared from tracking. Maybe it and the Doson tetradrachm eloped.
     
  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Dang, those clumsy cupids!!

    ;)

    wow => you have coins-skilz to burn "and" you're kinda funny (oh, and by the way => I love the "goosed" look on Roma's face) ... or is that Athena? (mmmm, Athena)

    ... you rock, my friend!!
     
  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    :D Thanks, my favorite maniacal coinpal!

    For the record, that's Mars, not Roma or Athena-- so don't hit on him at the bar.

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    Roman Republic
    moneyer L. Julius L. f. Caesar, 103 BC

    AR denarius, 17mm, 3.9 gm
    Obv: Helmeted head of Mars left; CAESAR; ・J above
    Rev: Venus Genetrix in chariot left, drawn by two Cupids; lyre to left; ・J above
    Ref: Crawford 320/1
    Jencek E-auction 26, lot 58, 14 October 2014. Ex CNG XXXI lot 699, September 1994; ex RBW Collection
     
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  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    mmmm, Mars ...

    :woot:
     
  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!


    ahhhhhh....that's awesome!

    that's a great reverse stevex on that new coin stevex.
     
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    stevex6 Random Mayhem

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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    As someone I know says "winner, winner, chicken dinner" Nice pick up little brother.

    Thessalian League.jpg
    THESSALIAN LEAGUE, AR Drachm
    Obv: Laureate head of Apollo right, ΓAYANA (magistrate) behind
    Rev: Athena Itonia standing right, with shield and about to hurl spear, ΘEΣΣA - ΛΩN to sides, bunch of grapes on vine right, Π-O / Λ-Y (magistrate) across lower fields Struck at Thessaly 196-146 BC
    4.0g, 16 mm
    BMC 36
     
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  18. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Nice horsey coin, haven't seen that one before. And I don't know why but the reverse reminds me of the pink panther.
     
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  19. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

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  20. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Lol... This explains why Cupid bigas aren't more common.
     
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  21. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Nice pick-up Steve! Superb detail for such a tiny coin.
     
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