1875 S Trade Dollar, need help...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Seba79, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. Seba79

    Seba79 Well-Known Member

    Hello everyone!
    Like i said in another thread, i am assembling a Dansco 7070 Type set, now, i have the chanche of buying this 1875 S Trade Dollar, but I need help to determine if it is authentic, or not.
    The top images, with the black bottom, correspond to the coin in sale.
    The images that appear below, correspond to a Trade Dollar Type Two Reverse, Large S, taken from Heritage page.

    Really it will estimate the help of the experts in these beautiful coins !
    Many thanks!

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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Could you post an image of the coin that hasn't been split up. On first glance, it looks cleaned.
     
  4. Seba79

    Seba79 Well-Known Member

  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Looks real to me. It would look great in a Dansco. Like most Trade dollars, it was cleaned at some point in it's life.
     
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  6. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    First one has the leaves on the olive branch doubled. Other than looks harshly cleaned I'm 91.73% good with it.
     
  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Looks authentic, based on the proportions and the position of the devices. Lettering and mint mark look good. The cleaning is absolutely brutal--very harsh--the reverse has been brutally cleaned mechanically I would pass on this coin, as the cleaning is so harsh--the reverse looks really bad. Same goes for the right side fields of the obverse--looks like the coin was actually dug into by whatever tool was used for cleaning--probably a whizzing. Even for an album coin, I'd avoid it.
     
  8. deacon2828

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  9. Amanda Varner

    Amanda Varner Well-Known Member

    Definitely a type 2 reverse. :)
     
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  10. deacon2828

    deacon2828 Active Member

    Just noticed that the "s" in DOLLARS is about gone ???
     
  11. deacon2828

    deacon2828 Active Member

    Sorry for pun > it does look from the photo their is a faint "s" after DOLLAR>
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I don't like the denticals on the reverse especially at the 6:00 area. This is a feature the Chinese tend to have a problem with. Note on the Heritage coin the denticals are strong and well formed all the way around on both obv and rev.
     
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  13. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Unless it's really a good deal melt money I wouldn't buy it.
     
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  14. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    If you want to be sure it's an authentic coin and not cleaned, buy a slabbed one and crack it out...
     
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  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    That is because the coin has been so harshly cleaned. Doesn't look Chinese to me--just looks like routine scrubbing of a common date Trade Dollar, so as to render it worthless.
     
  16. deacon2828

    deacon2828 Active Member

    LETS SEE WORTHLESS, TO WHO ???
     
  17. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    It looks real to me but , Like Conder said the dentils bother me too , and what looks to me like porosity on the reverse . If it is a fake it's a darn good one as everything looks right on . Can you weigh it ?
     
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  18. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

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  19. deacon2828

    deacon2828 Active Member

    You all make me Laugh!
     
  20. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    1875-S trade dollar SEMI-KEY !! BETTER DATE !!

    Let's have a look at some facts:

    T$1 1875 = mintage 218,200
    T$1 1875-S = mintage 4,487,000

    PCGS price guide 1875 AU55 = $1.350
    PCGS price guide 1875-S AU55 = $465

    True. So funny...
     
  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I guess it is "better" to own a common date? :) :)
     
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