Diocletian's Egyptian tets

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  1. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    I like these little fat coins. The reverses are interesting. Here are some of mine. Diocletian Egypt Athena seated year 2.jpg Diocletian Egypt Eagle year 3.jpg Diocletian Roman Egypt LA Elpis left w flower.jpg Diocletian Roman Egypt LB Elpis left with flower.jpg Diocletian Roman Egypt LE year 5 Alexandria standing left, Sarapis Bust in rt. scepter in left.jpg Diocletian Roman Egypt Nike advancing right.jpg Diocletian Roman Egypt year 7.jpg Diocletian Zeus seated year year 7.jpg
     
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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Whoa. Nice coins!

    TIF - show us your tets!
     
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  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nice JBG, i really like these coins.

    i have this one from diocletian...

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    it is nice and phat..

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    easy to find in my coin box because of the "gap" in makes in there.
     
  5. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    You can still blame it on the NyQuill!
     
  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    :D

    I don't think I've uploaded the Diocletians to my website but here's a sampling of some of my favorites Alexandrians.

    Nero/Apollo, tetradrachm, year 13
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    Hadrian/emperor with Alexandria, drachm, year 15
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    Antoninus Pius/canopus of Osiris, tetradrachm, year 2
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    Lucius Verus/Zeus, tetradrachm, year 4
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    Claudius II/eagle, tetradrachm, year 2
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    Claudius II/Tyche, tetradrachm, year 3
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    Carinus/Tyche, tetradrachm, year 1. These Alexandrians are frequently misidentified and this one was found on eBay, labeled as a Diocletian when it is actually a moderately rare type and year for Carinus.
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  7. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    Killer eagle on the Claudius II. And the Claudius II Tyche is also special.
     
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  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I told you she had nice tets.
     
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  9. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    You are a dawg! I have been beaten into politically correct submission by the last 5 decades. I only see the uniform not what's inside. No matter how nice those babies are. ;)
     
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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I don't have too many, but this is my latest favorite, a bargain bin coin from my main man in Dubai...

    Marcus Aurelius Probus, AD 276-282
    Billon Tetradrachm, 20mm, 7.66g; Alexandria, AD 277-278.
    Obv.: A K M AVT ΠPOBOC CEB, Laureate, cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: Dikaiosyne (Aequitas) standing left, holding scales and cornucopia, in left field, LB (Year 2).
    Reference: Milne 4522. Emmett 3979(2) R1. Curtis 1846.

    probus tet.jpg
     
  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    AURELIAN
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    PROBUS
    Probus7.jpg
    NUMERIAN
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    Numerian4.jpg
    DIOCLETIAN
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    Diocletian6.jpg
    MAXIMIANUS
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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    NERO
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    TITUS
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    HADRIAN
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  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Mmmmm, nice ... I could stare at your tets all day long!! (Bing)

    :woot:

    ... anyway ...

    What's this thread, dem Egyptians? ...

    => them gull darn ejyptions!!


    Antoninus Pius Alexandrian Neptune BI Tet.jpg
     
  14. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    My tet only hadrian
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  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I know this thread asked for tets of Diocletian but by the time I got here all the types I have had been posted and the thread ran off chasing other rabbits (a common thing here). I'll show a few different Alexandrians.

    Aelius Caesar hemidrachm - These are unusual in that they lack L dating but have TRP and COS "Roman" dating as well as naming (H)Omonoia. The exact coin comes in a larger drachm so you will need to weigh them to attribute.

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    I feel lucky to have two tets of Julia Domna (but not one of Septimius, unfortunately). All Severan Alexandrians before Elagabalus are rare.
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    Common but different is this Carus posthumous tet with Greek translations of the standard Roman types and legends. thEW KAPW CEB / AphIEPWCIC
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  16. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Very nice Domna issues. Those are difficult to find.
     
  17. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Some Diocletians...

    Obv:– A K ΓOYAΛ ΔIOKΛHTIANOC CEB, Laureate, cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– None, Tyche reclining left on garlanded couch, right hand on rudder, left hand supports head
    Minted in Alexandria (LA). A.D. 284/285
    Reference:– Curtis 2023, BMC 2527v, Milne 4756

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    Obv:– A K ΓOYAΛ ΔIOKΛHTIANOC CEB, Laureate, cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– None, Eirene standing left, holding sceptre and olive-branch
    Minted in Alexandria (L | B). A.D. 285/286
    Reference(s) – Curtis 1976, BMC 2493v, Milne 4774

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    Obv:– A K L OVAL DIOKLHTIANOC CEB, Laureate, draped bust right
    Rev:– None, Dikaiosyne, seated left on throne, holding scales in right hand and cornucopia in left
    Minted in Alexandria (LA). Year 1. A.D. 284-285
    Reference:– Milne 4748. Emmett 4034(1) R2. Curtis 1966. BMC 2492. Köln 3201. Dattari 5653

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  18. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    No Diocletian alexandrian tet to show, but, like the folks before me some others :

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    Nero and Agrippina, tetradrachm Alexandria mint, AD 56-57
    NEP KLAY KAIS SEB GEP AYTO, Laureate of Nero right
    AGPITTTTINA SEBAETH, bust of Agrippina junior right LG in right field
    12.5 gr
    Ref : RCV # 1989

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    Nero and Poppaea, tetradrachm Alexandria mint, AD 63-64
    NERO KLAY KAIS SEB TEP AY, radiate head of Nero right
    TTOTTTTAIA SEBASTH, draped bust of Poppaea right, LI in right field
    12.3 gr
    Ref : RCV # 2002 v, Emmet # 129

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    Tranquillina, Tetradrachm Alexandria mint, AD 242-243
    CAB TPANKVLLEINA CEB, diademed and draped bust of Tranquillina right
    Nike standing left, LS in field (sixth regnal year)
    12,50 gr
    Ref : Sear #3868v, RCV #8898v, Emmet #3449/6

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    Gallienus, Tetradrachm Alexandria mint, year 14 (AD 266/270)
    AVTKTTLIKGALLIHNOCCEB, laureate and cuirassed bust right
    Eagle standing left, head right, with wreath in beak. LIdelta in left field, palm in right field
    9.60 gr 22 mm
    Ref : Emmet # 3804, RCV # 10582

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  19. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    more...

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    Salonina, Tetradrachm Alexandria mint, year 15 (AD 267/268)
    KOPNHLIACALWNEINACEB, diademed and draped bust right
    Eagle standing right, holding wreath in beak. LIE in right field
    11.61 gr 22 mm
    Ref : Emmet # 3854, RCV # 10723

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    Valerian II, Tetradrachm Alexandria mint, year 4 (AD 256-257)
    TT LIK KOPOYALEPIANOS KAIE CEB, bare bust, draped and cuirassed
    Eagle standing left, head right, holding wreath in beak. L delta in field
    10,18 gr
    Ref : Emmet # 3764/4
    RCV # 10754

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    Claudius II Gothicus, Tetradrachm Alexandria mint, year 1 (AD 268/269)
    AVKKLAVDIOCCEB, Laureate and draped bust right
    Eagle standing right, head left, with wreath in beak. LA in right field
    10.14 gr 21/22 mm
    Ref : Emmet # 3878, RCV # 11407

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    Probus, Tetradrachm Tetradrachm minted in Alexandria AD 277
    A K M AVPTTPBOC CEB, Laureate and cuirassed bust of Probus right
    Eagle right, head left, holding wreath in beak. LB in field (regnal year 2)
    6,69 gr
    Ref : Sear #4773v, Emmet #3983/2

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  20. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    And to finish with (already shown off with that one, but a gem in my collection) :

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    Domitius Domitianus, Octadrachm, Emmet plate coin Alexandria mint, AD 296-297
    DOMITI ANOCCEB, Radiate bust of Domitius right
    No legend, Serapis going right, LB in field (regnal year 2)
    12.79 gr
    Ref : Emmet, Alexandrian coins #4241/2, this example illustrated, Dattari # 10830, RCV # 12982 (2000), Sear # 4801 var (It's actually an hexadrachm in Sear)
    Domitius Domitianus, stationed in Egypt, rebelled against Diocletianus in july 296 AD and was proclaimed emperor. He was defeated during spring 297 AD. Diocletian decided to close the alexandrian mint, so the coins of Domitianus are the last provincial coins from Alexandria. Also, Domitianus was the only ruler to strike octadrachms (in parallel with didrachms, tetradrachms and hexadrachms)

    For more information, see, in english : http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Domitius Domitianus or "en français" http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=54339.0

    Also, the following comment, about another specimen sold at CNG (Triton XI, Lot # 539) "For the most part, scholars agree that the larger coins featuring the radiate bust must be a double, and thereby call it an octodrachm. At half the weight, then, the smallest coins with the Nike on the reverse must be tetradrachms, though these coins have erroneously been called heretofore didrachms. The weights of these tetradrachms appear consistent with the final issues of pre-reform tetradrachms of the Tetrarchs. The middle denomination poses the largest challenge to this arrangement. By weight, it should be a hexadrachm. However, no such denomination was known to have been struck in Egypt, though tetradrachms earlier in the third century achieved this weight. The obvious problem here would be the confusion caused in circulating the same denomination in two different weights. As this type is the rarest of the group, it is possible that it was meant for a special occasion, or more remotely, a stalled attempt to reinstitute the pre-reform coinage on an earlier weight standard. Further investigation may shed more light on this subject.

    Happy Q !
     
  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    EGYPT, Alexandria. Julia Mamaea. Augusta
    BI Tetradrachm

    222-235 AD
    Dated RY 11 of Severus Alexander (AD 231/2)
    Diameter: 23 mm
    Weight: 12.92 grams
    Obverse: Diademed and draped bust of Julia Mamaea right
    Reverse: Draped bust of Serapis right, wearing calathus; L A (date) behind, palm before

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