Capped Bust Half opinions

I can't and won't speak for Josh, but third party grading isn't always the answer for a dealer. The coin might be tied up at the TPG for two months or more, which means its liquidity is shot, and the expense of getting it graded might wipe out any potential profit.

 

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I can see your point, but if you sell a coin as AU to a customer, they submit it and it comes back as XF40 - or even worse as XF det - they probably won't buy again from you. I would be very careful...

 

The wear indicates AU with the hair curl and drapery and eagle feathers. The banners were often incomplete and weakly struck. That's a solid coin, and personally I grade it AU as a capped bust guy. Contrary to other opinions, I don't see any obvious problems with the coin, but pictures make it difficult to tell.

 

It's true that the coin looks much better in the latest set of pics.

 

AU-50 details. I can't tell from any of the pics whether it has sufficient luster to warrant an AU grade. As for the Overton number that micbraun asked about--it's O-114, an R-3 die marriage.

Bottom line...I like it.

 

This coin has zero evidence of cleaning. you can try and say it is XF details all you want but I know for a fact this coin is AU50 with natural toning. This was a pretty elaborate way to try to pressure me into selling the coin at a lower price, nice try.

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Josh

 

Based on the detail of the obverse stars, it seems like a nice strike which would say that the weaknesses are wear. I'd call it XF-45 and don't see any evidence of harsh cleaning.

 

Instead of the questionable accusations, perhaps this should be viewed as a fine example of why proper imaging is so important. If the coin is truly what you claim, wouldn't it be smarter to let your photos do the talking for you?

 

Yeah books it would. I just don't have the best equipment right now.

 

You are right Josh. A bunch of us here got together and called it EF. We plan to split all the profit.

 

Coin looks AU to me and I am also a bust half guy. I bet the toning is nicer in hand. Josh managed to wash it out two different ways with artificial and natural light so it is darn difficult to tell if the old dipping damaged the coin in any way or if the toning is uneven or unattractive....just no way. But the meat is there on the coin pointing to an AU grade.
Josh...you want to sell more coins, either get a better camera set up or take better pictures. I recommend getting a copy stand, a tensor or gooseneck lamps, semi-decent camera, and a square of plexiglass or plastic the same size as the copy stand. Then read up on lighting angles and how to use axial lighting to highlight your coins. The difference in how the coins looks could end up like this.
good lighting, bad angles, wrong camera settings

same lighting, axial angles, different camera settings, same coin.

 

You don't need the best equipment, Josh, and we've discussed this before. Just learn to make the best of what you have.

 

Great example of how important good pictures can be!

 

So you cracked it out of an NGC/PCGS AU-50 slab?

Now you're really getting silly... I am done.

 

First off I don't need pcgs or ngc to tell me what the grade the coin is. I can grade coins and I've also had a few others I know who collect bust halves verify it is AU.

The op sent me a pm with a link to this article and then continues to bash the coin. This comes off as trying to get me to sell at a lower price. I know that this coin is AU and has not been cleaned.

 

Grading is subjective as you know and I call it XF-45 based on thirty five years of collecting and as a former dealer in one of the largest firms in the country. If you want to call it AU, that's fine with me, but I respectfully disagree.

 

Coins like this need to be certified before you'll have an easy time getting AU money.

 

So does this mean that anyone who disagrees with your grading is automatically bashing a coin and/or trying to scam a lower price? Sorry, but I'm not buying it. Perhaps you can grade fairly well now, and perhaps if submitted the coin would come back just as you claim, but that still wouldnt necessarily mean NK is trying to pull a fast one by simply disagreeing with you or even a number on a slab.

 

Matt is not wrong....an AU is more than twice the money an XF is listed for....definitely something you want to invest the $25 for the slab.