This EBAY looks fake... is it?

Check this guy out... it looks like he's got a stamp of this and just stamps the hell out of bills to make a buck...

or look here to see how many he sells!

is this for real... or do i smell a rat

 

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I think that vendor is a major league wanker who deserves to be NARU'd off eBay.Has anyone run his feedback chart through Toolhaus yet? I wonder how many innocent collectors this braindead idiot has scammed.

Aidan.

 

The guy should be sued... He says.. 'the $1 is genuine, while the errors are not'.. and I think thats what rescues him.. But, are such kinds of practices allowed in the US? This can be termed 'currency forgery'.. I think..

 

Biju,these scammers on eBay has raised the ire of the genuine collectors in the numismatic community.They deserve to be named & shamed.The numismatic community is better off without these idiots.

Aidan.

 

Whats the problem, he says it is not a real printing error and created outside the mint!!

De Orc

 

I think the problem lie's in the the fact that he is defacing the currency by forging Federal Seals and inscribing certain portion of "United States of America" which has only been on our currency since autum of1957.
I think he should be reported not only to EBay, but the FBI as well.

RickieB

 

Exactly what I meant .. :thumb:

 

don't forget the secret service! being able to accurately reproduce important design elements, (such as the treasury/reserve seals), would definitely interest the secret service. especially since the scale and colors look pretty accurate.

 

I think I may look into it. Never reported anything before...but I think this person does not know any better than to do this...Any other thoughts for you folks?

RickieB


I just looked it up... here is what is says;

"The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section 411 of Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits color illustrations of U.S. currency, provided:

The illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated
The illustration is one-sided and
All negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use
Title 18, United States Code, Section 504 permits black and white reproductions of currency and other obligations, provided such reproductions meet the size requirement. See the section on this website entitled Know Your Money for more information.

This guy is could get away with it , if he would increase the size of the seals and verbage. Right now he is breaking the law!!

 

Lets see he is not producing notes as fae as I can see, so where the acusation of counterfitting comes from I have no idea. He makes no claims that the errors are genuine, and how can you tell from any of those photos that his overprints are accurate reproductions? you guys realy should think about this before you start accusing someone of comitting a crime.

De Orc

 

DeOrc:
Thanks for the comments, as I was reading this thread I wondered it I was the only one who was thinking this.

He may be defacing the bill, but, so are the "Where's George" folks.

He says: "The $1 note is genuine, the errors are not.
These "errors" were created outside of The Bureau of Engraving and Printing."

So, there is no fraud involved.
If you like his stuff buy it, if not, punt.
Novelty only.

 

he's using official government seals and emblems for private commercial use. that's gotta be interesting to some sort of government agency.

 

<looks at SanMiguel>
Anaconda eh? please take me with you dangit!

My old crew is out at Ibn Sina now

 

Personally, I think defacing a currency is not good at all.. If a particular currency is defaced or made to look like another currency, then, to me its pure forgery and it is punishable.. Besides, if this practice continues, then it wont be long when dealers will make their own errors and sell it... :loud:

 

OK then I sugest that you report every person who counterstamps a coin or writes on a bill, you might not like what the guy is doing but there is no intent to defraud anyone, try having a look round ebay at the phoney reproduction bills, you going to report alll them as well!!

De Orc

 

Steve,the law is pretty clear on this.Forging U.S. currency can land you in the slammer for a very long time.I don't know what the penalties are for forging British banknotes,especially the English ones,are like.I know that the 'Operation Bernhard' forgeries are legal to own & collect,as the Bank of England would be aware of their historical significance.

Aidan.

 

Yes Aidan the law is very clear but what part of forging dont you understand?? The notes are real they have been overprinted, there is no intention to defraud anyone. It is the same as counterstikes on coins!

De Orc

 

where's george people aren't trying to make money off their stamps... and i'm not sure how the BEP feels about this guy using a federal stamp!

 

here's another interesting question... since the misalignment errors are real... by stamping it with fake seals... does this actually LOWER the value of the true error? It would if i stamped wheres george on it

 

Actually, he's more accurate than that - he says it was created outside of the Bureau of Printing and Engraving. The Mint has nothing to do with paper currency. :whistle: