Ancient Greek Horse ?

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  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Hello. I can see the image of a horse on this ancient coin. It's as if the horse has wings .
    I don't know. The obverse has the image of an incused person's head . The coin is tiny
    anyway. Please help me identify this coin. Thanks.. Charles ANGreek HORse.jpg ANGreek HORse.jpg ANGreek H R.jpg
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Looks like Pegasus ...

    ... sorry 7C, but I don't recognize your coin ... but man, I hate seeing a brother posting a thread with no responses ...

    Maybe if you post its weight and diameter you might get more interaction?

    Cheers
     
  4. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Great S6. The coin weighs 2.5 g. Diameter is 12 or 12.5 mm. I just read in the Encyclopedia Americana that " The early Corinthians inscribed some of their coins with the figure of Pegasus " . I don't know in what century could that be ?
    Charles
     
  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Corinthian bronzes have a much larger, fleshed-out Pegasos, sometimes spilling off the flan. And it generally faces left. If this coin has any relationship to Corinth, maybe it's a crude imitation?
     
  6. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Not only the Corinthians, but it seems that other Greeks and even Romans had inscribed some of their coins with the figure of Pegasus. He was believed to be the source of poetry. What would you suggest?
    Charles
     
  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    That's just it - I have no suggestions. I don't recognize it. Maybe it's just a horse and the little curlicue above it is a flan anomaly or a die clash? Is the reverse two pillars with a cista mistica between? Or part of a trident? I can't make it out.
     
  8. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    With the magnifier at hand, I am absolutely sure that there is a wing. I can even count the number of the feathers to the left and down of the curlicue. As for the reverse, there seems to be a rectangular longitudinal frame in which I can clearly see the front face of a person. The face is rather tall and not round. I can easily detect the eyes, nose and mouth of the face. Can't be sure if it's a man or a woman.
    I remember once reading on this site about the cista mistica but I really forgot completely the meaning. Please help me understand so that we could come out with a final answer about this coin. And if necessary , I shall resort to clearer images.
    Charles
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Not sure where you are going with the cista mystica, but here is one from my collection:
    AMISOS, PONTOS 1.jpg
    AMISOS, PONTOS AE 20
    OBVERSE: Head of youthful Dionysos right, wreathed with ivy REVERSE: Thyrsos leaning against cista mystica draped with panther skin; AMISOU below
    Struck at Amisos 85-65 BC
    8.8g, 21mm
    SNG BM Black Sea 1199-1200; HGC 7, 243
     
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  10. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    OK. Let's leave cista mystica aside. Do you think we can deduce any possibilities based on my nearly detailed description of this coin ? Thanks..
    Charles
     
  11. NormW

    NormW Student Of Coinology

    It's tough to tell from the picture but based on the size, I believe I remember the existence of a Roman Republican denarius that had a Pegasus on one side. Could that be it?
     
  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    You may be thinking of this Titius Denarius, Rome, 90 BC. Baco/Pegasus
    $_57.JPG
     
  13. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    No. The front face is inserted in a rectangular longitudinal frame . Maybe I need to post better photos .
    Charles
     
  14. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Here are much better images. Hope they could help. Charles FullSizeRender (1).jpg FullSizeRender.jpg
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Good effort, but I still don't see it (is the reverse an anchor-upside-down, or a face?)
     
  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    This is obviously a Seleucid coin, or a semi-autonomous city coin in Seleucid manner, judging by the style of the flying Pegasos. And there seems to be an inscription above Pegasos: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ? It's not in focus, so I can't tell. But I do know of one bronze type of Seleukos II that has Pegasos flying left with inscriptions above and below. I still can't make out the reverse - too fuzzy.
     
  17. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    That's a creepy holloweenish face peeking out of that coin! I like it.
     
  18. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I am very satisfied. Ha Hap Happy Halloween to all of you .
    Charles
     
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