Another evasive / possibly deceptive seller

I like eBay, but it really saddens me that these sellers continue to be allowed on the site.

 

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Perhaps, but I highly doubt it, and this is aside from and beyond his claim to have an NGC tag. Salted rolls or not, this guy seems to sell a fair number of coins, so I find it hard to believe, especially with my own experiences that those quickest to sell junk are some of the most careful when buying, that he would unwittingly buy a, ahem, "coin" such as this without being familiar with the well known identifiers.

 

Especially as long as people continue to bid much more for an "unsearched wheat roll with a quarter-eagle on the end" than they would pay for a quarter-eagle and a roll of wheats.

 

I do not have the Breen catalog which shows the various die pairings for this coin. If anyone reading this has the book, see if there is a reverse for this coin with a tilted-right weak mintmark----and let us know.

thanks in advance

 

Except this isn't a weak mint mark. I have 2 weak ones that are barely visible.

 

To help make your point...

http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/7943_37656402_2200.jpg

 

Yup, pretty much. Another interesting thing is the D is the only part of the coin that is raised. So on a worn 1911-D, how do they know if it is a weak D or strong D? I would almost argue one of mine is strong, since the coin is fairly worn.. but they still graded it weak.

 

Did he edit the auction? I do not see any mention of an NGC tag when I looked at it today.

 

I didn't see any mention of NGC the other day, and believe that this is something the seller said to the OP via ebay messaging.

Even if accounting for "wear", etc, the mintmark both appears to be of the wrong shape and not in the correct position.

 

Oh, come on. What are the odds against finding two fake quarter eagles in unsearched rolls? They must be astronomical!

 

Here's another serial seller of counterfeits: le.le80

I started another thread about him some time ago. This is the guy who collected several negs for selling fakes, took his feedback private (meaning he could no longer sell), then resurfaced after a month or so with most of the negs mysteriously wiped from his record.

Some lowlights of his recent listings:

1927 VERMONT SESQUICENTENNIAL HALF DOLLAR COMM. - estate#32 bennington - 90% .50

1929-D SILVER WALKING LIBERTY HALF DOLLAR HIGH GRADE- BRIGHT DOLID STRIKE NO RES

**PRE 33**--} 22K Gold Indian Head-- 1927$2.50 Incuse-- 14k 1/20th Bezel filled (this one went well below "melt", so most viewers spotted it as fake -- but it still sold!)

1932 D Washington Silver Quarter "KEY DATE" US Coin 90% SILVER great detail!

1895 25C Barber Quarter -GREAT DETAIL "partial liberty"-90%*** not junk silver

This just highlights one of the key truths about fake coins on eBay: most buyers never catch on, or if they do, they don't leave negative feedback or open cases. This guy even has one feedback (for a holed Barber dime on a necklace) that says "Interesting item. Not a coin." -- and it's a POSITIVE feedback!

eBay sometimes sends me surveys, and they always ask "how likely are you to recommend eBay to your friends as a place to buy?" I'd always given a high ranking there, on the strength of Buyer Protection. But the situation with fake coins is getting so egregious that my next ranking will be quite low. If enough people do the same, perhaps they'll notice...

 

I'm just waiting for the fake slabs to show up in numbers.

 

The seller stated that he cracked it out of a NGC holder, an obvious lie.

 

You can try to report it but I don't think the SS will even care.

 

Ended (already) "because the item is no longer available". Kudos to you for calling it out, and to the seller for doing the responsible thing and pulling it!

Fortunately, things aren't looking too dark for the seller anyhow, because look what else he found and listed as item 281477267364.

You'd think, having found two of these incredibly rare, valuable and well-cared-for (except for the identical scratches on the reverse) key coins, he would pull all of his remaining "unsearched rolls with quarter eagles on the end" and, well, search them. But I guess he's just too dedicated to supporting the eBay-unsearched-roll hobbyist community...

 

There is so much going on in the world today that this would have to be put on the shelf while they attend to other things. I don't think the man power is there to fully delve into everything they are responsible for. We are the only on-going line of defense. If our government can't pressure China and North Korea into action against counterfeiting, eBay sure isn't going to lift a finger to do it either. What is defined as an honest transaction and perhaps more of a moral issue, is not Capitalism's concern anyway. "Let the buyer beware" is the phrase used to describe it.