Claudius??

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by 7Calbrey, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Hi. That is the first time I come across this Roman coin of Emperor Claudius. But I noticed that the letter L is almost missing. What do you say? I would also appreciate your ID comments on both obverse and Reverse. Thank you.
    Charles Claudius O.jpg Claudius R.jpg
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Its Claudius II.
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's not almost missing, it's missing. Period. Misspellings on Roman coins are not uncommon. In fact, I'm surprised we don't see more of them, given the engraving was all done by hand.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Mat and JA are both correct.
    The coin is Claudius II Gothicus
    The letter "L" is missing.
     
  6. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Can you please elaborate on the reverse.?
    Charles
     
  7. Marc Aceton

    Marc Aceton Active Member

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  8. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much. That would teach me to keep up the hunt..
    By the way, my coin weighs 2.91 g. Is it a billon or a bronze coin ?
    Charles
     
  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    If there's any silver in it, I doubt it would amount to more than a few atoms. I would call it an AE Antoninianus.
     
  10. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Thanks brother JA.
    Charles
     
  11. Marc Aceton

    Marc Aceton Active Member

    Maybe, this coin could deserve very gentle cleaning.
     
  12. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I dare not clean ancient coins, I'm no expert at all. This coin is the best I've picked up during my numismatics experience. Maybe I should put it in distilled water..
    By the way, how much could it be approximately evaluated at ? I appreciate your comments. Thanks.. Charles
     
  13. Marc Aceton

    Marc Aceton Active Member

    It is difficult to predict this but I am sure your coin will fetch considerably more than an usual Claudius II. antoninianus even if it is in better shape. Even though your coin is still nice, I want to mention that those third century antoninianus collectors place emphasis rather on rarity than on perfect preservation.

    BTW, I would refrain from bringing bronzes in contact with moisture.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2014
  14. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Why do some say the "L" is missing? The legend is supposed to be
    IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG
    and it is. In the photo the "L" looks more curved than usual, but that may be the results of minor corrosion and anyway the "L" is not too far from normal and is clearly there.
     
  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'll take your word for it Valentinian. But it sure looks like the engraver put in an extra C instead of L.
     
  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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    I has been a few months since I posted my easily forgettable example bought in March but adding the left portrait makes your a lot more desirable. I suspect the corner of the L got knocked off in cleaning. Your coin was very thinly silver washed when new but relatively few of Claudius survive with much silver remaining.
     
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  17. Marc Aceton

    Marc Aceton Active Member

    Another very nice Claudius II. antoninianus, thank you for showing. It has a very sharp reverse depiction.

    On the basis of this relatively small photo of Charles' coin, one cannot make a clear statement about what happened at the lower-left part of the "L". Maybe, it is still covered by deposits.
     
  18. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Hi. This is a really coin talk indeed. I like this chat brothers. Now..please listen to my idea. Why would the engraver engrave the L in a way that, after long years and
    cleaning, it would resemble only the letter C which is originally curved in shape and happens to have been repeated twice before it? CC. I mean why did his supposedly letter L did not resemble another letter? He probably did the mistake by the fact of
    unintentional repetition. I hope i made clear this complicated idea.. Thanks for your care and attention. Charles
     
  19. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    We'll never know for sure, but it's as good of an explanation as any other.
     
  20. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Here is a photo of the upper obverse by IPhone . Charles photo2.JPG
     
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