1964D-1DO-006 cent

This coin matches the "bar above the #4", and the doubling of the lips, The whole neckline is doubled. I didn't see that in the coppercoins photo's.
Still the doubled 4 and lips are dead on...

here is the link
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http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1964&die_id=1964d1do006&die_state=mds

 

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It sure looks like it. I looked this up for my 64 yesterday!!! I still thought it looked md, pretty sure mine was, but yours looks very much like their's. It doesn't show the neck area though.

 

We found the same coin, but your's is more pronounced on the 4 here is the one I found yesterday (hope you don't mind):

 

yours is in better shape than mine. Nice! I've had this coin for months. I didn't notice the 4 or the lips when I found it. I only noticed the throat. I put a pic on here and some folks said it was MD. I was gonna toss it but it's cool so I kept it. I was looking through my saved one's and noticed the 4 and sure enough I saw the pic online and saw the lips and mine had them too. If I've learned one thing it's not to believe what people say on here. Most of the time they are right and I'm not. In this case I did have something but believed I didn't.
did you find it roll hunting?

 

Yes coin roll hunting, the same roll I found a RIDB that nobody has yet to reply. So I am the West Coast don't know where you are, but what are the odds on that.....
LOL. I wonder if it makes more of a chance of DDO?

 

The funny thing is, I was going to toss it to then I saw the similar one on copper coins. I was going to post it tomorrow. Well I guess we wait for a more informed thought

 

What you are seeing on the lips and throat is MD. The 4 appears to be Class 8 doubling. This was very common on 1964s. Whether it's 006 or not would have to be confirmed with markers and mint mark position.

 

Then it's absolutely astounding that mine, yours, and the example on Coppercoins.com all have the exact same "MD" on the lips. What ore the odds on that? The other similar on 1DO-001 has the bar but not the lips, different die markers.
I'll compare die markers after work. Mine is pretty worn but I'll be looking for the die gouge on the R of America.

 

I will check the markers on mine. Yep sure looks like ours are the same and as on copper coins. I did notice that there is a different edge, look to the necks then our coins on the lips and mouth. Lips and mouth are more rounded than flat while the neck looks flat.
checking for markers in a min.

 

I can't find the listed markers... If he does not find any could we have a different variety? So funny we have the same md on the face and neck with the 4. I will be waiting

 

Can both of you post photos of the mint mark location?

 

Will do, but I feel like I am hijacking his thread, hope he doesn't mind.

 

Here is the mintmark pic. I checked the reverse for markers (die scratch inside the R of America) but they don't match the 1DO-006 pics.
I see that your mintmark is in a different spot than mine.

 

For the majority of MDD, the causative reason is the die has been inserted inexactly or that the press itself has an adjustment problem. If a run in Denver in 1964 involved a press, then the same MD area could occur with several obverse dies, one of which could be a DD die. Many dies are used in a single year run in modern times coining.

 

On any forum, when you ask for input, some will TPG class or better; some will be trying, but not yet experienced enough; and some can not see the photo area well enough to tell for sure; and some just want badly to be with the crowd, and may say whatever comes to mind. Part of your learning , besides learning to spot varieties is to learn which opinions to place the most value. So yes, until you feel secure at making your own decisions, ask opinions and take them for the innate value based on your study and the person giving it. If you disagree, put it is a safe place with notes and pull it out in another 5, 10, 20+ years and give it another shot. By then you will probably have better equipment to use. The variety won't evaporate, it will still be the same, but your outlook on it may have sharpened. Many threads are just by people who want to know the possibility of flipping it on eBay and aren't really interested in varieties, just how quick they can pass it on, others are really trying, and time is in their favor for learning. As you have probably seen most of the possible varieties presented are relatively inexpensive compared to the time used to research them. Good for sticking with it.

 

now I found this one. It doesn't look like any of the listed ones either. The axis of the doubling is different. a bar under the horizontal bar of the 4 and a doubling on the bottom of the vertical one, Maybe it's MD? It also has the MD on the throat like the two previous 1964D's.
As far as flipping stuff on e-bay I am not crazy enough (yet) to think I could ever be able to make enough cash to pay myself for the hours of roll hunting, learning how to photograph, taking pics. etc... I'd like to find a really pronounced DDO valuable or not just so I can say I have a collection (collection of 1 lol) It's been a crazy wonderful experience. It started from getting a large water jug of old bashed up pennies from a friend and of course thinking they were all worth $. Now I can differentiate some types of MD but still get fooled most of the time. I probably would keep whatever coins I like. If a coin is worth a lot then maybe put it in a safe deposit box for my kids.

 

For my kids toooo LOL ....NO eBay for me not yet, unless my wife makes me sell the few I have for a new scope. Oh and yep our MM's are different I am still wondering if your original and mine look doubled on the 4 or are MD.

 

The MM are not that different. Your image is slightly smaller than mine. I took the pic at a different angle than you. I thought it was different but it could be the same.

 

I think the doubling on the 4 is legit for both coins. I'll look around on mine for any "markers". Mine is so beat up.

 

Thanks for posting the MM locations. The reason that I asked was that I suspected these weren't from the same die and I wanted to to illustrate just how prevalent MD was on 1964 cents as well as the prevalence of class 8 doubling on the tail of the 4. My suspicion is that both of these coins are from the doubled working hub that caused doubling on the crossbar of the 4 which effected numerous dies.