Can you id this ancient? Is the green and red supposed to be on this coin??

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  1. Thelionwarrior

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    I can't figure this one out. It looks like two people standing around some sort of green and red plant. I didn't think they used color back then so I'm not sure what this is supposed to be.... Can't make out the face or any lettering on the obverse so didn't bother posting it.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The side of the coin you show is the reverse which is showing two Victories. I can't make out the legend nor the mintmark. How about showing an image of the obverse? This could help in determining the emperor.
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hi, Thelionwarrior ... hey, a photo of the obverse still might help these coin-gurus with your ID (even if the obverse is lousy, sometimes it'll help with the investigation)

    ... oh, and also posting the coin's weight and diameter might also be good clues

    Cheers
     
  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Huh, I see that Bing is way ahead of me once again, eh? (well played, Chief)
     
  8. Thelionwarrior

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    I'll post better ones later today. Thanks for the help.
     
  9. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Red is not a problem with copper coins. The only green you need to worry about is the light, powdery green we call verdigris. This is bronze disease, and the reaction will continue until it consumes the entire coin. Please contact Badthad here and buy his verdigris removal product if you ever come across this. The color on this one is not that, though, and is fairly normal.
     
  10. Thelionwarrior

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    Well it doesnt look like that though... im going to use my digital scope later but it seriously looks like a christmas tree or a green plant with red dots between the two what may be victories.... didn't have a good magnifying glass last night so was hoping soneone might have an explanation. Will get a better look at it when I get off work.
     
  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Its a normal toning reaction that occurs on some ancient bronze coins. Red, if it is uniform throughout the coin, is a very desirable color to some collectors. Spots of red, though, are fairly common with LRB's.
     
  12. Thelionwarrior

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    Either way it looks really cool. :)
     
  13. Thelionwarrior

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    Ok Obverse uploadfromtaptalk1412972495494.jpg
    And reverse uploadfromtaptalk1412972537168.jpg
     
  14. Thelionwarrior

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    Here's a picture without all the lighting... the green and red just stick out lol... It's really cool... ancient coin.jpg
     
  15. Thelionwarrior

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    And sorry I'm new to ancient coins.... so I'm not sure where to even start in identifying this thing...
     
  16. dougsmit

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    The two victories type comes with a variety of items in the middle including many with nothing. I show a Constans but it could equally well be his brother Constantius II. This one is Siscia mint but all mints made the very common little coins. Yours may be Thessalonika SMTS-.
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    Below is a Constantius II of Thessalonika but it has nothing between the figures. There are many variations on these very common coins. The are cheap in good shape and nearly worthless in poor condition.
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  17. Thelionwarrior

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    It's really small but I can't tell you the size cause I don't have anything to measure it... the weight is 1.3 grams
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Constantine_II_4_opt.jpg
    Lugdunum

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    Siscia

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    Rome

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    Arelate

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    Treveri

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    London
     
  19. Thelionwarrior

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    so.... let me challenge this then... is it possible one of those with the plant in the middle was made with green and red? I mean... this looks like it's on purpose... but then again someone could also have done it outside of the mint... or who knows... I just know it looks cool in person lol
     
  20. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    It wasn't made green and red, or done on purpose by someone. Its just a coincidence of the toning on that spot. I think its great you like it though. :)
     
  21. Thelionwarrior

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    Just saying... maybe it's Santa's elves around a Christmas tree.... well.. cept they are big elves... or the tree is small.... lol.... I like Christmas... ;)
     
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