Ancients - Probus - ADVENTVS PROBI AVG - Lugdunum

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here is my latest addition to my specialis collection of the Antoniniani of Probus from the Lugdunum mint. I don't get to add many of these coins to my collection.

    Lugdunum produced a short issue to commemorate Probus travelling through Lugdunum at the start of the summer of A.D. 277 travelling with his army from Asia to battle in the Rhine. My coin below comes from the next emission, dating End A.D. 277 to Early A.D. 278 which was produced to celebrate the return of Probus after his victories in Gaul and contains a very wide range of bust types that had been notably missing from the output of Lugdunum up to that point.

    Probus Ant.
    Obv:– VIRTVS PROBI AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield
    Rev:– ADVENTVS PROBI AVG, Emperor, riding left, right hand raised, left holding sceptre; at foot, captive
    Mint – Lugdunum (//III) Emission 5, Officina 3. End A. D. 277 to Early A.D. 278
    Reference:– RIC 64 Bust Type G var (officina), Cohen 69, Bastien 226 (1 example cited, which would appear to be from the same die pair as my new example)
    Some silvering remaining.

    3.35 gms. 180 degrees. 22.19 mm.

    A lone metal detector find from the Ely area in Cambridgeshire, United Kingdom

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    Martin
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Beautiful, well struck coin with great detail.
     
  4. Marc Aceton

    Marc Aceton Active Member

    pretty rare type, I guess.
     
  5. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    The reverse type is generally common for Probus from the majority of the mints producing coins but is rare at Lugdunum and Ticinum. The ADVENTVS PROBI AVG reverse seems to have been minted to celebrate a visit by the emperor to a particular city and he simply didn't visit these cities very often.

    As part of my collection (built over a number of years) I also have the following two coins of the type:-

    The first minted on his outward journey to Gaul

    Obv:– IMP C PROBVS • P • F • AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– ADVENTVS PROBI AVG, Emperor riding left, right hand raised, left holding sceptre; at foot, captive
    Minted in Lugdunum (I in exe) Emission 4 Officina 1. Middle to End A.D. 277
    Reference:– Cohen 68. Bastien 184 (10 examples cited). RIC 19 Bust type F

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    the second was part of the same issue as my initial coin above but made at officina 4 rather than officina 3

    Obv:– VIRTVS PRO-BI AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield, decorated with emperor riding past row of soldiers with shields
    Rev:– ADVENTVS PROBI AVG, Emperor riding left, right hand raised, left holding sceptre; at foot, captive
    Minted in Lugdunum (//IIII) Emission 5 Officina 4. End A.D. 277 to Early A.D. 278
    References:– Cohen 69. Bastien 256 (2 examples). RIC 64 Bust Type G (S)
    An obverse die match to the plate example in Bastien

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  6. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Beautiful coin, love the patina especially.
     
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  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice => that's a sweet new avatar, Mat (I'm jealous of that artwork!)

    Oh, and Martin => very cool addition (ummm, a lone metal detector find?) ... did "you" find this baby?

    ... very cool, either way

    I like you guys
     
  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Not found by me but bought from the finder.
     
  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    cool coin, Martin ...

    Sadly, I'm always wary of the dudes that claim that they "found this coin the other day" ... but then again, I'm pretty sure that you have far more street-cred than I do when it comes to spotting "fakes and fakers" ...

    Hmmm? ... but I guess that all of these ancient coins are found by "somebody and their metal detector", eh?

    => Martin, please keep-up the awesome job of being awesome (well done)
     
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    .... eh-heh-heh ... these are my only two Probus coins (Probii?) ...

    => rock-on, Probus!!

    AE Antoninianus ... a bit grungy
    probusaa.jpg probusbb.jpg

    Alexandrian AE TET ... even grungier
    Probus and or Diocletian Alexandria Tet Eagle a.jpg Probus and or Diocletian Alexandria Tet Eagle b.jpg
     
  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    very attractive...color is nice.
     
  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Very compelling coins!
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Martin is a specialist in one mint and there are rarities there which are more common elsewhere. In addition there are many minor variations like the Medusa head on that OP shield. There must be a million variations on Probus. I only have a couple Lugdunum coins (not my thing) but below are other variations on the theme for those who collect from the rest of the empire. My favorite is the Serdica (second one below).
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  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I have an interesting but rather unlovely coin of Lugdunum with a legend variation not listed in RIC (the addition of IMP). This is what I wrote when I first posted it...

    "The reverse presents Sol in the scarce variety of standing right, facing left, with spread chalmys. If you wanted to collect a high-grade example of this variety, you would head over to the Trier mint where you would shell out a pretty penny, but easily come away with a "museum quality" coin - whatever that means. (I think the dealers that use that term have likely never darkened the doors of a museum.)

    The variety is scarce to begin with - Sol is found far more often standing left. I believe the type is even scarcer coming out of Lugdunum. RIC lists one coin with these particular mint marks, referenced to the Oxford Collection, with the obverse legend CONSTANTINVS AVG as R4. My legend-variant may of course be listed elsewhere, but RIC is all I've got."

    Constantine I
    AE Follis, 18mm, 2.8g; Lugdunum mint: 316
    Obv.: IMP CONSTANTINVS AVG; laureate, cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: SOLI INVIC-TO COMITI; Sol standing right, looking left, chalmys spread, holding globe; A - S // PLG
    Reference: cf. RIC VII, Lyon 62.

    RIC62var.jpg
     
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