Question for the IKE Collectors

So I just sold off my IKE PCGS registry set minus the business (circulation) strikes. I went into PCGS and was going to create a new registry set. My original registry set was Eisenhower Dollars - Complete Variety Set - Proof and Circulation Strikes. This was basically every Ike minted under the sun (ie - Clad and silver uncs and clad and silver proofs + all CPG recognized varieties).

So the new set I want to start is titled Eisenhower Dollars Complete Variety Set Circulation Strikes. The only problem I have with this registry set is that PCGS considers the UNC Silver IKEs as part of this set. I don't think they should because they were never minted with the intention of circulation. And by the simple definition of the set, these should not be included within the set.

I am wanting to contact PCGS to deliver my point that the silver IKEs should not be considered "circulated" strikes and therefore taken out of the registry list. I have contacted PCGS before about a similar issue with the SAC's and they actually agreed with me and changed their registry criteria based on my observations.

The question is....do you agree with the statement that the silver IKEs should be considered Circulation Strikes? A general consensus would give me an idea how the general IKE collecting population feels and whether or not it would be worth my time to contact PCGS. Thanks.

 

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That is a good question. However I think PCGS is considering silver Ikes as the same type of strike as clad circulated strikes. Regardless of whether the silver Ikes were intended for actual circulation or not.

 

? why did you sell off some of your set when you need them for a new set?

 

In my mind, if there's no difference between the silver and the clad except what they were minted on, I would consider them the same.

 

Agree that the silver were not intended for circulation; therefore, should not be part of the registry set.

 

Did you get a good price for the set you sold? How's the market for them?

 

What is an Ike dollar?

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Agree. The minting process is the same for both.

 

My complete set in "my definition" includes the Silver non-circulating Ikes. Just my opinion, as they are part of the same minting process, as my Brother Green says above. So, even if PCGS doesn't feel that way, it doesn't mean it ain't so in one's mind.

 

So for those that say that both coins used the "same minting process" are you implying that both the circulation strikes and silver strikes received the same number of strikes at the same pressures and the same care afterward?

 

Judging from the condition of some of mine I'd say they both receive the same number of strikes but frankly? I don't know........

 

OK, I see where we're going. The uncirculated set coins were struck under higher pressure in those times and did receive better care (supposedly). Circulation strikes are struck differently in that they don't get the higher pressure strike.

 

are you implying that both the circulation strikes and silver strikes received the same number of strikes at the same pressures -- yes



and the same care afterward-- no

 

How about the number of strikes for each type?

 

Do you have a source for this statement:

That they are a different # of strikes?

 

Do YOU have a source for that statement?

If I had a source for that statement I would be quoting it instead of asking it.

 

Nice.

I love sarcasm in response to a normal question.

Think, genius: why would I have a source for a question. You were the one stating: "How about the number of strikes for each type?"
With that question you are inferring that there were a different number of strikes, not that: 'Gee, Ah donno are there a different number of strikes?'

Your question was 'how about the number of strikes' Not: Are there a different number of strikes.


Thanks, I'll be hitting the ignore button after this. I prefer to read & write English

Bye.

 

Haha! Frank I didn't think you were the type with thin skin. I didn't mean anything by it. I think what I was implying was made very clear even though it wasn't written in perfect old English grammar. How long have you known me!? Have you ever known me to be sarcastic or anything other in all the years we've been on CT?? I am just trying to find out this info. I should have taken this to the IKE group, but I like communicating with you guys.

 

Actually, I thought there were two versions of the silver bicentennials - one version struck using parameters designed for silver planchet and a second version done using the normal business strike parameters when they found out they needed to make a whole bunch fast. This is the basis for collecting the bicentennial sets with both the clear wrapper and the wrapper with the white stripe. The latter version may fall into the circulation strike group.

FWIW, this is off the top of my head as I have no references with me. Perhaps one of the IKE crowd could verify or refute it.

 

Yes since the name "Circulation Strike" should be interpreted as "Business Strike" as its not whether or not a coin was intended to be "circulated" but it's more about the manufacturing method used to produce the coin.

Business strikes, commonly referred to as "circulation strikes" are manufactured in a completely different manner that "Proof Strikes".

You know this Joe.