Opinions on this 1857 Seated 25c

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by C-B-D, Sep 22, 2014.

  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Under a loupe, there's not a hairline to be found, and this date is known to have strike weakness, which this one has. But do you think she'll grade? And what? I'm thinking AU58 at the moment.
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  3. risk_reward

    risk_reward Active Member

    Looks XF to me, but I'm no expert.
     
  4. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    I wants it! Give it to us prrrrecious! :D
    I really like the toning on it, grade wise? I'd agree on high XF range.
     
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  5. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Well, I do see some strike weakness there, but I would not go outright and call it an AU58...I'm thinking more AU50-53 range.
     
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  6. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    I like it. Can the luster support an AU58?
     
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I would say 53, which porbably means it will get slabbed a 55-58.
     
  8. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    I would say a happy medium would be AU-53 as well. It just doesnt look like a 58 to me. I dont feel the images are showing enough luster left for that call.

    I also think this coin has a nice old dip with good toning, anyone else feel like that isnt an original surface despite the nice toning? (The middle two images are making me lean towards being dipped)
     
  9. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Seems to have been dipped in the past, but what I would consider a market acceptable cleaning. I'm personally not a huge fan of the mottled toning look, but a nice coin overall. I'd go AU-53.
     
  10. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    The AU grades are pretty much about how much luster is remaining. That is very hard to judge from photos and in this case I think could go from XF45 to AU 53. Nice color though, definitely an appealing coin.
     
  11. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    The mushiness in the eagle's legs and the arrow knock down the grade. Looks like the coin has retoned from an old cleaning or dip, but it looks like some parts are getting closer to the terminal toning stage where the coin will turn darker. AU50-AU53 IMO.
     
  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I was just notified by PCGS. This coin graded MS63. Will post pics in 3 days or so when it arrives.
     
  13. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Wow!! was gonna say 50. I clearly see wear on both sides not withstanding the strike weakness
     
  14. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Nice snag!

    I wouldn't have called it a 63, but you're not paying for my opinion :)
     
  15. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    One thing my pics don't show is the luster. It has a cartwheel.
     
  16. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Awesome coin! yummy Color.
     
  17. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Super-weak strike? It really looks like wear, esp. in the area below the shield. I guess it doesn't matter now as PCGS has decided there's no wear :)
     
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2014
  18. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Yeah I was convinced they would call it AU58. It's beautiful, but 63 is a bit of a stretch. Then again, I am not a Seated quarter guy and 57's were plagued by a weak strike...
     
  19. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

  20. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    I am happy for you but I am shocked at the same time. I think PCGS must've outsourced the grading of this coin to CO or WA cause someone was high when they slabbed it 63, IMHO that is.
     
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