1856 - Seated Liberty - Quarter

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by William DeBerry, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. Sorry for the blurry iPhone pics, it's the best I can do right now. Lighting is natural, right underneath window on rainy day. What do you think the grade on this is, as well as the value? I bought it as a VG for $24. Good, Bad, Okay? Let me know. Thanks in advance!

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    Thanks again!!

    ETA: You can make out the 'LIBERTY' on the shield; the L is a little light and there is a slight nick through the middle of 'LIBERTY'. Again, wish pics were better/sharper so you could see more detail.
     
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  3. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    For raw, between $20 - $30 dollars, I would continue the hunt for something with a bit more detail. I'll show you what I got for around that price.

    Nothing fancy, just wanted a type to see what all the hype was about...

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  4. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Nice VG. You cannot read liberty, (btw the word liberty should be readable easily, I used to use a loupe or squint my eyes, but that is not the intent of the grade standard), and there are strong rims and typical VG detail.
     
  5. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Not bad, but then again there is a tradeoff between detail and surfaces. I prefer the OP's surfaces to yours, so in my view they are similar.
     
  6. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    You can see the surface using those photos? Give me the link.;)
     
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Maybe I am assuming his surfaces are normal circulated surfaces from the period. It appears so from his pics. I have a few dozen similar coins in my US collection. MAYBE I am missing something major, but sure looks to me like normal VG silver surfaces. On yours, I didn't like the black on the reverse. Many times in my experience such things can be masking corrosion.
     
  8. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    No, I know what mine looks like, but, I can't see any concrete details on the other photos, just blurry. Maybe the OP has a link to the original auction photos or ...?
     
  9. Sean the Coin Collector

    Sean the Coin Collector Active Member

    You did ok, not good not bad but at least you have expanded your self in the numismatic hobby and have a nice coin you always wanted to get !! As for price that is in the range that you will pay that type of coin !! Cheers,;) all that matters is that you like it
     
  10. cristinel moraru

    cristinel moraru New Member

    i find in my country :))) Romania this coin , what you can tell me about
     

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  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Very, very bad fake. Whoever made it knows nothing of US coins really. Sorry.
     
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  13. Ed Sims

    Ed Sims Well-Known Member

    You got a cleaned coin for that price.
     
  14. Yeah, my pics suck, but torontokuba's pics, looking closely, I thought they looked cleaned, as well. I will try to get some better pics up tomorrow to show a little more detail of mine..
     
  15. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    Yes, that part is clear. Plenty of details grades out there with these. I was just hoping to look at some details when I paid $16 + shipping to Canada.
     
  16. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Nothing wrong with that sir. I never meant to demean your coin, just bringing up how different looking coins can be worth similar. There is a buyer for every coin, what bothers you may not bother me.
     
  17. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    My local coin shops don't exactly have a large variety of US coins.

    If I decide I like a coin I buy several, with upgrades. First, I start with a sample, to see what it is like, in hand. Buying a slug with a real grade does not help me with getting a feel for the details and what to look for.

    I did the same when shopping for Standing Liberty quarters. I bought an inexpensive raw coin or two, realized I dislike the later years, 1916 in a worthwhile grade was not going to happen, so, I focused on the 1917 Type 1's. I now have three decent ones, of which this is my latest upgrade. The original trial samples (weaker or details grades) always end up in good hands when I swap them for European silver.

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  18. I wasn't being demeaning, either. I just thought I saw a few hairlines in the fields. I actually do like the black on it, as well. To me, regardless of what it may or may not be covering up, I like how it makes the LIBERTY standout and kind of outlines the details and makes them pop. I know, everyone, to each their own. I will try to get better pics up soon. Had a busy day today.
     
  19. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    No apologies needed. I added a picture of a previously cleaned coin. The bottom end price point in these is filled with details grades. Heck, even the slabs are filled with details grades, when it comes to these coins. I got what I paid for and it wasn't a worn down slug.
     
  20. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Unfortunately this is all too true. I have the hardest time finding these coins at or above XF-45 that aren't in details slabs. Common dates seem to be the only readily available coins in those grades without overly compromised surfaces.
     
  21. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Rare coins are rare. What you want to buy is what everyone has always wanted to buy. These coins are out there, but most are owned by collectors like me who might have bought them 25 years ago, and won't come on the market for a long time. My best advice would be to make friends with good dealers and let them know exactly what you are looking for. Coins like that go fast when they do hit the market.
     
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