Need help on a family "heirloom"

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by phankins11, Aug 28, 2014.

  1. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    First off forgive my long windedness here...but I think its a good store either way..

    Recently i've been made aware that my grandfather on my mother's side was an numistmatist. Not only him, but one of his other brothers (would be a great uncle to me). I also found that my uncle inherited the coins from my grandfather when he passed away over 37 years ago. My Grandfather passed away when I was 5. I have some memories of him, but for the most part I grew up with out a grandfather on either side of my family.

    Tragically my uncle sold them, not a numismatist I guess. (sniff sniff)

    Anyhoo, this side of my family tends to....hmm...exaggerate and embellish stories and memories..., believe the things that are "too good to be true." LOL.

    I think I've discovered one of these stories in a little curio cabinet that my Aunt has in her entry way. I've seen this little curio cabinet for 37 years. My Aunt and Uncle moved into this house the year I was born and nothing has changed since, except for a couple of remodels in the kitchen and a sun room. One of these unchanging things is this curio cabinet. Its been there for at least 37 years (since the death of my grandfather who passed away after the house was built and moved int). I've walked past it a thousand times, but never really taken a look. But, like most folks, as I've gotten older, I've gained an appreciation for the old, the antique, especially when it comes to knowing my family. For the first time the other night, I stopped to look at the little curio cabinet. In it, lo and behold I see an ancient coin. I and my cousin decide to be a bit naughty (as naughty as you can be at 42) and opened the cabinet up to look at the coin. We took it out and took pictures of it, they are below.

    As I examined the coin, I told my cousin that although I had no idea what kind of coin it was, my gut reaction, based on coins I've seen in real life that were certified genuine, was that it was probably a fake or a replica. To me the coin looked too round, and it just looked manufactured...the surfaces didn't look like what I would expect a thousands of years old coin to look.

    Anyway, now I would like to know if its genuine or a replica\copy.

    BTW...the discoloration from about 11 o'clock to 4 o'clock on the reverse (side with owl) is there on the coin, its not a photographic anomaly, its actually a light brown color.

    So, I'm wondering if any one here can tell me if the coin in these pics is genuine or is it a gift shop trinket?

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    A common fake, sorry. :(
     
  4. dallas101

    dallas101 New Collector

    man!... even I (capital) I don't believe that story
     
  5. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    @dallas101 true story, I swear, the hand in that pic is my cousin's...we're the rebels of the family :)
     
  6. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    What's rebellious about the story? What's not to believe? Sorry, I kinda skim read it. It looks decent to me but yeah it is too round looking. In the second pic, there seems to be a small piece of metal sticking out near the thumb. That could be where the metal fills in a cast copy. Check edges and look for a seam or unnatural or recent grinding down of edges. That's all I can think of
     
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Just my opinion: FAKE. But not because its too round, rather the overall appearance is wrong. What is the weight? And is the reverse sunken in or flat? Look for that seam that joecoincollect mentioned. Can the coin be attracted to a magnet? The answers to these questions will go a long way in deciding if its genuine.
     
  8. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Looks very similar to this one :

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    It was given as a promotionnal by a pharmaceutical company in the eighties if I don't mistake

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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Even the portrait on your coin Q looks more genuine than the op coin.
     
  10. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Not my coin, but funny enough we've had a similar topic on the french forum a few days ago. The coin I show is from a fellow member's collection

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  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    You could always honor his memory and buy a genuine one. :D
     
  12. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    @joecoincollect - You're right..I'm playing up the rebellious part, probably had to be there with us to get that part...basically we felt guilty for opening her little cabinet of stuff and playing with it...comes from the kid years of "don't touch!"

    Some times that stuff doesn't translate in the story...anyway thanks all for weighing in...as I had suspected it was a fake, @Jwt708 I like your idea :)
     
  13. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

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    no problem. Thanks for replying. So, did it stick to a magnet? And maybe the weight is within a small range for the real ones.
     
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  14. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    Joecoincollect I'll have to take a magnet and my digital scale over there next time.
     
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