Numismania quoted ANOTHER member who alluded that you MIGHT be a troll..so don't dump on me solely. Do you remember offering me your SSN??? It really isn't a good idea to get hammered (what other condition would one be in to do that?) and buy things on the internet. Judging by the FIVE 1908 Indian cents, the 1800 S$1 (can only imagine what other 'coins' have proven to be good buys for you), you should really slam on the brakes and stop buying until you have gained more knowledge, if you are planning on buying more coins. If not, the only thing you'll have to leave your grandkids are bogus, counterfeit examples, and at the rate you are going, well..... If you really need to spend money on numismatic items for (and I'm quoting Dallas's own words) 'investment, economical angle, or positive return', why don't you purchase ASE's or AGE's from an established seller of such items? Sure, metals are not guaranteed to rise, but they have a helluva better chance of appreciating than bogus 1908 IHC's, or that God-awful 1800 dollar you purchased. At the very least, gold or silver will still be worth SOMETHING. As far as being called a troll, search your other drunken posts to see who else might have alluded to it...I was NOT the first, but the drunken mind does/thinks what it wants. I'm done posting to your threads, as any advice you get from this forum WILL be forgotten the minute you see another fake that makes you think you are getting a good deal, one that makes you pull your wallet out.