Planchet Flaw???

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Briboy07, Aug 20, 2014.

  1. Briboy07

    Briboy07 Well-Known Member

    Hi All,
    I noticed what I thought to be a die break, but upon further inspection I am not so sure; I was thinking maybe a planchet error/defect. It is a thick raised line that runs UNDER the monument's 11th pillar N/W under the top of the monument and continues N/W under the lettering. What do you guys think? Image212.jpg Image211.jpg
     
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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Die scratch?
     
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  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Yes, it is a die scratch. If it were a planchet flaw, you would see it on the devises also.
     
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  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Strange, tho, that it doesn't show on the Memorial!
     
  6. Briboy07

    Briboy07 Well-Known Member

    Thanks all for the replies! Ya, I thought it unusual that it is actually under the memorial and the letters. I guess my thought was that the planchet was not lathed properly. So what exactly is a die scratch and do they normally go under the lettering and stuff? I am not familiar with that :)
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It looks like a gouge that ran across the fields, not into the devices.

    Chris
     
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  8. Briboy07

    Briboy07 Well-Known Member

    Well I don't sell coins so I am not going to as a value, but I will ask is this an error worth keeping? Looks very cool!
     
  9. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Bri., Think backwards.. a high spot on the coin will be a low spot on the die. The memorial would be lower on the die than the fields just as cpm mentioned above. So a scratch on the field of a die would not get into the device unless of course it was substantial.
     
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  10. Briboy07

    Briboy07 Well-Known Member

    Die scratch vs Die break i'm so confused and now gouge :hilarious::cyclops::)
     
  11. Briboy07

    Briboy07 Well-Known Member

    doh, I posted that at same time as you Jim M thank you!!!!
     
  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    As a rule, a die break will not form a straight line because when the die fails, the break will follow the path of least resistance. It can meander all over the place. If you want to see a lot of examples of these, go to VAMWorld and look at some of the photos.

    This is just my opinion, but I've always considered a die scratch as a smaller version of a die gouge. Both will usually appear to be a (fairly) straight line, but the scratch is usually finer. Looking at your photo, it is very bold and thick as if a broad tool caused it. Do you think the pinpoint of a needle could cause this?

    Chris
     
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  13. Briboy07

    Briboy07 Well-Known Member

    nope not a needle and thank you!!!!!!
     
  14. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    die gouge, caused by feeder fingers dragging across the die surface...
     
  15. Briboy07

    Briboy07 Well-Known Member

    ty everyone!!!!! Could anyone let me know if this a keeper please?
     
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  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I would keep it. If nothing else, it makes an interesting conversation piece. You can tell your friends that it's the flagpole at the Iwo Jima Memorial just across the Potomac River.

    Chris
     
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