Ancients => Coolest coin "ever"!!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by stevex6, Aug 17, 2014.

  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I've always loved this super cool coin ... so when this "reasonably-enough" priced example raise its head, I jumped at it like a Goldeye chasing a pickerel-rig!! (yah, that's fish talk)

    ... anyway ...

    I love everything about this cool coin ... I hope that you dudes will also appreciate its awesome-ness!!

    Cheers


    Sextus Pompey, Son of Pompey the Great,
    AR Denarius

    42-40 BC
    Diameter: 18 mm
    Weight: 3.5 grams
    Obverse: MAG PIVS IMP ITER, galley adorned with aquila, sceptre and trident before the Pharos of Messana, decorated with a statue of Neptune
    Reverse: PRÆF CLAS ET ORÆ MARIT EX S C, the monster Scylla, her torso of dogs and fishes, wielding a rudder as a club
    Refernce: Crawford 511/4a; CRI 335; Sydenham 1348; RSC 2
    Other: very cool


    Sextus Pompey a.jpg Sextus Pompey b.jpg
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Oh ... here is what a fantastic example would look like (just in case you're having a hard time seeing what they're sayin') ... this awesome example cost five-x-times as much as my humble example (too expensive for this guy) ...

    Sextus P.jpg
     
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  4. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    I am curious who, other than me, actually understands that sentence. Pro-tip: They like those little pockets of slow moving water right near the bank of the Red.

    Sweet Republican Steve! I really like the little hint of toning.
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Outstanding!
     
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  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Oh wow! I wants it !!
     
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  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I only have this forlorn bronze from Sextus Pompey. Can't complain about the price though since it was part of a nice mixed lot. It may not be pretty but it's chunky. In a fight it would crush you wimpy wisp of silver :p

    Pompey-SML12-Med.jpg

    SEXTUS POMPEIUS MAGNUS, son of Pompey the Great
    Circa 43-36 BC, Sicilian mint?

    AE, 29 mm, 19.8 gm
    Obv: Laureate head of Janus with features of Pompeius Magnus
    Rev: Prow of galley right; [PIVS above, IMP below]
    Ref: Sydenham 1044?
    from an unimaged and mostly undescribed mixed lot, Stack's Bowers, Nov. 2013
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I have one like this TIF, just not in as good of condition:
    Sextus_Pempey 1_opt.jpg
     
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  9. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    what an interesting coin stevex, super cool on both sides...but dang that Scylla is awesome. this is my favorite of you 3 coin splurge.
     
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  10. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

    The reverse is VERY nice imo (and your obverse pic could be better...) :woot:
     
  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Dont find it the coolest but its nice for what it is. I like the nicer example better of course, to see the animal details.
     
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  12. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Very nice coin. Also has some graffiti on it. That one, even in it's grade had to have costed a bit, perhaps.
     
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  13. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I agree about the super coolness of this coin... Galley, lighthouse, aquila, Neptune, Scylla wielding a rudder as a club (!!)... What more could you want on a coin?? Right at the top of my want list. Grats on the great new pick up!
     
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  14. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    nice warship Steve :D
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => exactly ... this coin has a whole lotta great stuff goin' on (man, if only Perseus and Medusa were standing on the deck, or maybe if Tyche was feeding Pegasus a pomegranate, eh? ... yup, then this coin would have "everything")
     
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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Z-bro => thanks for mentioning that the "Pharos of Messana" was actually a lighthouse ...

    => Ummm Alex, I'll take *Things that stevex6 didn't know, for $500*


    I also have another sweet coin from Messana, which is in the same kinda shape as my new addition (but I absolutely love 'em both!!)

    SICILY, Messana. AR Drachm (60 Onkia)

    445-439 BC
    Diameter: 18 mm
    Weight: 3.59 grams
    Obverse: Charioteer driving biga of mules right; above, Nike flying right, crowning horses; olive leaf and berry in exergue
    Reverse: Hare springing right within wreath, ΜΕΣΣΑ-ΝION
    Reference: Caltabiano Series IX, 388 (D175/R168); HGC 2, 807; SNG Lloyd 1111; SNG Lockett 820; Boston MFA 288; Jameson 651; Pozzi 487; Rizzo pl. 27, 11 (all from the same dies)
    Other: 10h … toned, rough surface, scratches, scuffs. Very Rare (R2)
    From the Continental Collection


    Sicily Messana.jpg Messana City.jpg

    ... the modern day city of Messina, with its "scythe-like" harbour

    messana scythe.jpg
     
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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hmmmm? ... hey, does anybody have a theory regarding the graffiti on my cool new example? (ancient, modern and/or any idea what the symbol(s) may be? ... yah, it doesn't really look like a banker's mark, to me)

    Sextus Pompey b.jpg

    ... thanks for any clues or hypotheses (cheers)
     
  18. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Very cool Steve, not a bad coin it has very good details, i like it.
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks man ... yah, like I stated earlier, this coin-type is pretty popular/cool/expensive, so the price goes up very steeply depending upon the details (in my semi-poor defense, I think that this puppy has adequate details and is still within a 'normal' person's budget)

    ... cheers
     
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, I got bored ... plus, I wasn't quite ready to let this coin-thread die (I love this coin ... it is very cool)

    So, here is a cool tale ...

    Scylla and Charybdis were mythical sea monsters noted by Homer; later Greek tradition sited them on opposite sides of the Strait of Messina between Sicily and the Italian mainland. Scylla was rationalized as a rock shoal (described as a six-headed sea monster) on the Italian side of the strait and Charybdis was a whirlpool off the coast of Sicily. They were regarded as a sea hazard located close enough to each other that they posed an inescapable threat to passing sailors; avoiding Charybdis meant passing too close to Scylla and vice versa. According to Homer, Odysseus was forced to choose which monster to confront while passing through the strait; he opted to pass by Scylla and lose only a few sailors, rather than risk the loss of his entire ship in the whirlpool
     
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  21. tenacious

    tenacious Member

    But it shows the details of the ship really well!
    And it looks like it has 2 ramming prows. An upper and lower one. Cool.
    That's something that I like about ancients, sometimes you can see what objects, weapons etc looked like. For example, I have never read about, or seen in reconstruction pictures, a ship having a lower and upper ramming prow.
     
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