Real, Fake...and what are they? [Roman]

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by eddyk, Aug 8, 2006.

  1. eddyk

    eddyk New-mismatist

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    I know the middle one is Constantine...the other 2 i'm lost on.

    It's also the date i'm after, as well as what they are.

    For size comparison, the middle one is between 19mm and 20mm.

    They didn't cost that much (which is why I bought them)...but my mother is saying I have been ripped off (thinking theyre fake)...but as far as shes concerned the bigger the coin...the more it's worth.
     
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  3. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Always Right

    Tell Mum your coins are real, and the coin in the centre is indeed Constantine, others I am not sure of. Roman coins are so common that unless they rare examples they are not faked often.
     
  4. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Eddyk,
    They're real but unfortunately,not that valuable $15-20 max for each.There are so many ancient bronze coins found that the supply outstrips the market,especially 2nd-3rd century Romans like yours.
    #1 is probably the emperor Tetricus..looks like him and I can see two disticnt T's in the inscription in just the right spots.
    #2 as you know is Constantine,or more likely one of his 3 sons with a campgate design.
    #3 is a reverse of Jupiter that reads IOVI CONSERVATORI or Jupiter preserve us.It was used by several emperors but mostly by Constantine the Great himself.
    All three of these are in pretty good shape,so way to go!
     
  5. eddyk

    eddyk New-mismatist

    Thanks alot.

    They cost me £8 ($15) for the lot.

    Me, I just always wanted some roman coins lol for my collection...so got a few.
    But it's nice to know what they are if anyone asks :D

    Here is the obverse and reverse of all 3.

    Not sure if it's needed now anyway.

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  6. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    The bottom left coin is interesting because I don't think I've ever seen a more stylized reverse than this.Most Roman coins use fairly realistic pictures of gods and heroes but yours looks like a Picasso version.I'm still sticking with Tetricus though,based on photos I've found like this.
    http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/tetricus_I/i.html
     
  7. eddyk

    eddyk New-mismatist

    Maybe it's a one of a kind and worth 1000s ;)
     
  8. eddyk

    eddyk New-mismatist

    Sorry for the awful phone pics.

    Can anyone help me identify this metal detecting find?

    Cheers
     

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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Looks like Crispus, son of Constantine I. Flavius Julius Crispus, also known as Flavius Claudius Crispus and Flavius Valerius Crispus, was a Caesar of the Roman Empire. He was the first-born son of Constantine I and Minervina.
     
  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It probably is:
    London, RIC VII 229
    Crispus AE 3. CRISPVS NOBIL C, Helmeted and cuirassed bust r. / BEATA TRANQVILLITAS. Globe on altar inscribed VOT-IS-XX in three lines; in exergue, PLON.
     
  11. eddyk

    eddyk New-mismatist

    Cheers pal.
    Ref 3916 in this book?
     

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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Which book is that? The reference you cite is not correct. Yours is helmeted not Laureated and, although I cannot see the mintmark on your coin, I do not think it was minted at Antioch as in your reference. I may be abvle to make out PL? at the bottom of the reverse. If so, that makes it a London minted coin. Where did you find it?

    I just checked and the reference you cite is Sears Roman Coins and their Values. David Sear does not list every coin struck in his reference book. I use his book(s) as well, but it would be much better if you can use RIC or an on-line reference.
     
  13. eddyk

    eddyk New-mismatist

    Lincolnshire uk.
    That book is called, 'Roman coins and their values' from 1988. Which is all I have I'm afraid.


    Lastly, should I stick it in olive oil for a year or leave it as is?
     
  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Try distilled water instead of oil. Soak it for a few days then take a soft toothbrush and gently brush. You can do this over and over until you get the desired effect. I don't clean coins any longer, but I never liked using olive oil. It darkens the coin too much.
     
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  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Go back to the first group. The small photo shows Licinius I, I believe from Nicomedia mint.
     
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