PCGS restoration. Yuck.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by C-B-D, Aug 16, 2014.

  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    TrueView_29777287_ExtraLarge.jpg So here's my second coin sent to PCGS restoration service. The obverse was perfect. It had lustrous centers and some light album tone around the rims. But the reverse was flat gray and spotted. (Will post before pics later if possible). The coin looked like it had laid face up on a surface for decades, thus toning it only on the reverse side. Anyway, I put on the forms to "remove reverse spotting/tone," but they dipped out the entire coin badly. Still in a holder. llll Edge AU55.
     
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  3. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    The coin is actually bright white in hand. Clearly cleaned. It was inconsistent before, at least now both sides match. Still, I'm disappointed that they messed with the obverse at all. Looks like I'll be restoring my own coins from now on.
     
  4. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    looks good to me
     
  5. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Sorry to hear that your coin became worse after the restoration. Can't really tell how badly the luster became impaired from this activity. Pictures make it appear dull, but they're only pictures. It could be much different in hand. Again, my condolences.
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The image above is not what the coin looks like?
     
  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Should have saved the money and used a brillo pad & comet for better results.:clown:
     
  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    No. In hand it's blast white. Clearly over dipped and the obverse is very flat. The reverse, which was originally spotty and gray actually shows decent luster and looks better, but the obverse screams, "cleaned."
     
  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    First, there is no sure-fire guarantee that conservation will make the coin look like what you think it should. It doesn't matter if it was done by PCGS or NCS. Still, it would be difficult for anyone to assess the results without seeing before and after photos. The coin looks okay to me.

    Chris
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Do you have the 'before' pictures?
     
  11. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    Are there any pictures previous to restoration?
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    To my knowledge there is no way to "conserve" just 1 side of a coin. The only thing anybody can do to properly clean a coin is dip it, that's all there is. You can change what you dip it or rinse it in, meaning use acetone or distilled water, or a commercial coin dip, or even some proprietary mix of chemicals - but you still have to dip it, the whole coin, to clean it properly.
     
  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Here's what it looks like in-hand... or as close as I can get to showing you with my camera. I've tried finding the original listing. It was an old white ANACS holder AU55 sold by TECC, but the listing was from May or June and I can't find it anymore. (I know I'm complaining and shouldn't be. Bought the coin for $970, and now someone will "buy the holder" and I'll still profit big, but the coin went from being uneven and having an ugly reverse, to being flat and overdipped).
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  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Ok. I guess I was just hoping they could leave the obverse alone and somehow only let the dip touch the reverse. But lesson learned. Now I know.
     
  15. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I tried to find the original listing from The Executive Coin Company, but it's apparently been too long ago, as I can't seem to dig it up.
     
  16. chip

    chip Novice collector

    Hmmmm.. Just wonderring out loud, but if one were to apply a coating of petroleum jelly to one side before dipping would that cause only one side to be dipped, or would that e-z-est boil the vaseline right off the coin?
     
  17. harris498

    harris498 Accumulator

    FWIW, to me, it does look dipped, but still looks attractive.
    I like the coin, but then again, I like bust halves in general.
     
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  18. Volante

    Volante Well-Known Member

    Yeah, you'd think there would be some sort of protective, inert coating you could add to one side of the coin before dipping it. I suppose that then getting that coating off might pose some additional difficulties.
     
  19. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Coin looks decent in the TrueView, but those always look better than reality. Coin looks a little gross in your images.

    I think that I have heard of people dipping only one side before, Maybe @LostDutchman. You should probably conserve your own coins if you think you can be successful at it, so you know what was done, and if you dont like it you only have youself to blame. Probably talk with Matt and see if he can give you some pointers, either free or paid, as it would probably be worth it even for a fee.
     
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  20. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Yeah, you can definitely do one side of a coin. I guess I'd like to see before pics before I comment on how if handle it.
     
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  21. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    The obvious answer is that "dipping" the entire coin was not needed. A Q-Tip, dipped in solution then lightly rolled over the surface of the coin while holding it followed by a rinse may have done the trick. However it takes a skilled hand and some experience. Too much dip on the Q Tip and it would flow over onto the other side.

    I think that if you were really adamant that they only restore one side of the coin that you should have expressed that in VERY large letters on the submission form.
    Outlining specifically that if they felt it could not be done to just return the coin to you along with any charges.

    The more I read your original description of the coin, : The obverse was perfect. It had lustrous centers and some light album tone around the rims. But the reverse was flat gray and spotted.", the more I think you probably should have left well enough alone.
     
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