i think i found somting

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by helpmeplease, Feb 18, 2007.

  1. helpmeplease

    helpmeplease Senior Member

    HI . did I find an error on the date, is it rare or is it not rare at all, is it worth someting, I just pull it out of a roll on sat.
     

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  3. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    What you have is a coin struck by a worn die, in which a tiny bit of metal broke off a weak spot between two close together incuse lines.

    I don't think anyone would pay a premium for that very small cud.
     
  4. helpmeplease

    helpmeplease Senior Member

    thanks satootoko , i was well wishfull thinking
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    helpme:
    That is a tiny cud, die break. No special value, but these were actively collected in the 1960's
     
  6. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    The 1957-D is noted for little cuds like this.

    Ben
     
  7. helpmeplease

    helpmeplease Senior Member

    man i'm 40 years to late
     
  8. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    It is not a CUD...this is a die chip. The terminology is important although a minor issue but again, this is not a CUD
     
  9. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    I've been accused of being a stickler for correct terminology myself. ;)

    My understanding of the terms is that a "die chip" is a small piece broken off from a die, and a "cud" is the blob which results from the coin being struck with a broken or chipped die.

    If I'm using the terms incorrectly, would you please explain the correct usage?
     
  10. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    I think you hit it on the nose. Could be wrong, but I think that sounds right. Foundinrolls would be able to tell you better than me. Although, I'm no where near an expert on coin terminology, so I couldn't tell you for sure. Just my two cents. That is a nice wheat you got there helpme. Did you find it in a roll?

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  11. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Apparently I'm not alone in my usage of the term "cud" At About:Coins they define it this way:
    In an advertisement for The Cud Book by Sam Thurman and Arnold Margolis, Published 1997, this book seller makes no mention of the edge, and says:

     
  12. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Sorry to say but Sam did not use the "PURIST" definition of the word CUD.

    The accepted definition is as follows: A cud is a coin struck by a die that has had a die break that includes a portion of the edge of the die. When that portion of the die breaks away, any coins struck by that die will have a raised area corresponding to the void in the die. A CUD may involve the areas of the coin that are a part of the field. or it may involve areas of lettering or numerals.

    A die chip is a description used to describe the raised spots on a coin that were the result of being struck by a die where any interior portions of the die broke away. You'll see this show up as raised spots inside numerals or letters.

    That was a poorly worded advertisement.

    What makes things even more interesting is that many Glossaries online define CUD incorrectly as a result of the misinformation provided as to the definition of a CUD

    http://coins.about.com/od/coinsglossary/g/cud_defined.htm

    The small article says it best. The above definition is the "Purist" definition. It is correct but because of the misuse of the term over a long period of time, it has become, although incorrectly, used to describe any raised area on a coin that is there as a result of a break out of a die.

    It is like the CENT , PENNY issue in collecting. Commonly called Pennies, Our United States issues do not include pennies. For the Purist, they are and will always be CENTS. Calling them Pennies is technically incorrect, but most people are not even aware of it if they are not collectors of coins.:)

    Have Fun,Bill
     
  13. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    If it was in MS-67 it might be worth a premium...but not in this grade...
     
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