[ancients] Post your Hadrians...

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  1. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

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    Hadrian AR Denarius., 117-138 AD, 3.1g, 18mm

    OBV: HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS, Laureate head right, slight drapery on left shoulder.

    REV: COS III, Pudicitia standing left, covering face with veil.

    REF: RIC 176, RSC 392.
     
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  3. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    hi TIF,
    thank you and rest
    looks like sestertius is an As
    eric
     
  4. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    hadrian Denarius.
    Referentie.
    RIC 299;

    Obv. HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P.
    bare head Right.

    Rev. Africa
    Africa reclining left, wearing elephant-skin headdress and holding scorpion and cornucopia, basket of fruits at her feet

    Maten.
    3,20 gr
    18 mm

    Kwaliteit.
    VF
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    NICE!
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    HADRIAN AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P, Laureate head right
    REVERSE: AFRICA, Africa reclining left holding scorpion & cornucopiae, basket of grain at feet
    Struck at Rome, 136 AD
    2.76g. 18.5mm
    RIC 299/RSC 138
     
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  6. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    My newest Hadrian arrived yesterday. Another eastern mint oddity!

    Denarius
    Obv:- HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P (sic), Laureate head right
    Rev:- COS III, Concordia standing left sacrificing over altar and holding cornucopia.
    Minted in unknown Eastern mint
    Reference:- RIC -; BMCRE -; RSC-

    [​IMG]

    Martin
     
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  7. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    hello Martin,
    very nice indeed, can you tell why this is eastern?
    thx,
    eric
     
  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    It is down to the style of the engraving for the legends, portrait and deity. The style is much more crude than the Rome mint examples.
     
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  9. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    and AVGVSTVS P (sic) means missing?
    the head looks normal to me but i am a beginner.
    most eastern coins loooks Hadrian different.
    was it sold as an eastern mint if i may ask?
     
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  10. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    We would expect AVGVSTVS P P, for Pater Patriae. I am aware of a couple of eastern dies that end with AVGVSTVS P. Strack did not list any.

    An example of mine:-
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    This one from the Forvm A C sold coins:-
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    These easterns are a bit of a passion of mine.
     
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  11. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    ah yes now i understand, thank you for you explanation.
    learning every day.
     
  12. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    This was sold as a Rome mint coin. Some Eastern mint portraits are almost good enough in style to be from Rome but the reverse style distinguishes them.

    The following coin was sold to me as a Rome mint coin but I knew it was not.

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    Hadrian Denarius
    Obv:- HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS, laureate head right with slight drapery on far shoulder (Legend reversed as AVGVSTVS HADRIANVS)
    Rev:- COS III, Victory standing right holding wreath and palm (Legend reversed as III COS)
    Minted in Eastern Mint. A.D. 129-131
    Reference:– BMCRE -. Strack -. RIC -. RSC -. Apparently unpublished.

    Strack knew just three Eastern denarii with this transposed obv. legend, including one with a Minerva standing rev. type in the Trau coll., Strack's pl. XVIII, *18. Curtis Clay has another example with this obverse with the Minerva type. This would appear to be a fifth specimen from this obverse die but with a new reverse type.

    Additional information on this coin from Curtis Clay:-
    "Interesting. Apparently a new rev. type on the Eastern denarii, of uncertain origin.

    That's admittedly a fairly standard Victory advancing right rev. type, but I find no such type on any denarius of Hadrian from the mint of Rome, nor on his Asian cistophori.

    A similar type does occur on Hadrian's silver quinarii, and on a rather scarce denarius of Trajan struck in 112 but these seem unlikely sources for a type on Hadrian's Eastern denarii.

    Moreover on the Roman coins Victory grasps the stem of the palm over her shoulder in her left fist, thumb upwards, whereas on the Eastern denarius she palms the stem, holding it with her downwards pointing thumb while apparently keeping her fingers extended. I imagine that this detail may go back to the source copied, since it seems unlikely that the engraver changed it on his own whim."
     
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  13. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Ok, Thank you, III COS would hint me on eastern and a bit his portret
    If that was all, but then i stare every day several Hours at hadrian coins.
     
  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    HADRIAAAAANNNN!!

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  15. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    1e denarius under Hadrian.

    Referentie.
    RIC 2b; C. 1009

    Obv. IMP CAES TRAIAN HADRIANO OPT AVG GER DAC.
    Laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right, baldric strap over shoulder and across chest, seen from front.

    Rev. PARTHIC DIVI TRAIAN AVG F P M TR P COS P P
    Trajan standing, delivering globe to Hadrian standing, left facing him; both are laureate and togate and hold rolls in their left hands.

    Maten.
    2,89
    18 mm

    Kwaliteit.
    VF
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  16. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here is the most common Eastern mint coin type.

    Hadrian Denarius
    Obv:- HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P, laureate bust right
    Rev:- COS III, Aequitas standing left, holding scales and cornucopia
    Minted in unidentified Eastern Mint.

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  17. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Hadrian Denarius
    Obv:- HADRIANVS AVGSTVS (sic) P P, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:- P M TR P COS III, Minerva standing right holding inverted spear in right hand, resting left hand on shield
    Minted in Eastern mint.
    Reference:– BMCRE -. RIC-. RSC -.

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  18. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Hadrian denarius
    Obv:- HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P bare head right
    Rev:- COS III, Virtus,standing right, holding scepter and parazonium; left foot raised, resting on helmet.
    Unknown Eastern Mint.
    Reference:- RIC -, cf RSC 355, cf BMC Page 380 #25 (Vienna) (draped bare head bust right) same reverse die though the image is very grainy

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  19. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Hadrian Denarius
    Obv:- HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P, Laureate bust right
    Rev:- TRANQVILLITAS AVG COS III P P, Tranquiliitas, draped, standing left, holding vertical sceptre in right hand, left hand at side, resting left arm on column
    Unknown Eastern Mint.
    Reference:– BMCRE -. RIC -. RSC -.

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  20. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    nice collection, Martin, looks to me eastern mints often on larger flan.
     
  21. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice Hadrians, Oki and Martin!
     
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