What's Up With The Steps?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Agilmore01, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    This is the sellers photos,so I can't provide any other angles. Anyways, was looking for a raw 1939 S Jefferson and came across this listing. Was looking at the steps to see if it was a reverse of 38 or 40, and saw the weird wave indent ion in the steps. I haven't seen anything like it before. I emailed the seller for an explanation or better pics, but he didn't respond. Any ideas? Not sure it's PMD since the details mostly remain. Maybe struck through or something? ImageUploadedByTapatalk1407258033.471427.jpg
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Take the coin out of the holder before taking pictures.

    Possible die cracks.

    Also one but UNUM, or it may be a hair.
     
  4. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    This is the seller's photos. I don't have it in hand.
     
  5. Dean 295

    Dean 295 D.O.M.

    Looks like a bit of SNOW piled up on the steps.... Could be a die crack?
     
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  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I can't enlarge it, it could be die chips
     
  7. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    Best I can do ImageUploadedByTapatalk1407261015.750673.jpg
     
  8. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I would say it's a fiber from that cheap paper holder, look at all that white stuff...
     
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  9. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    The way the light reflects on it, it looks like it is part of the coin to me.
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    ah, not it looks like either a staple scratch or struck thru a wire or thread.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Guys, this is what he is asking about. The way the top of the steps are missing below the red arrow -

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    Now I don't know about any of you, but I've never seen anything like THAT before. And have no idea what could have caused it.
     
  12. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    Thank you for helping clarify my question. I thought my original post was clear enough. I saw the coin dealer who owned this coin at a coin show the other week. I told him I sent him a question about it but he did not respond. He had no answer for me there either.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If it was a die chip there would be a lump there, not a clearly defined edge of the porch. It almost looks like a piece of the coin fell away after it was struck. But if that was the case the bottom edge of where the steps are missing would not be so smooth and rounded looking.

    That's what has me baffled.
     
  14. carboni7e

    carboni7e aka MonsterCoinz

    The thing on the steps looks like PMD. Definitely not a staple.
    The white fuzz is exactly that.
     
  15. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I think it's struck through a wire brush bristle. It looks similiar to this.
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  16. Ed Sims

    Ed Sims Well-Known Member

    It looks like something was on the coin and was struck into the coin leaving the indention. It would be near impossible to say whether it was when made or after it left the Mint. If it were me I would pass on this coin and look for a "problem" free one for my collection. From the ends of the steps it looks like a reverse of 1938.
     
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  17. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    I agree it is a Rev. 38, so I am going to pass anyways since I want a Rev. 40. I just thought I would get some thoughts on this error since I can't seem to figure out what it is and the seller isn't offering any help.
     
  18. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    The more I stare at the pic, the more I think it is struck through something, like your example.
     
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