[ancients] Antoninus Pius Drachm... the Caesareum of Alexandria?

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  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Here's my second A-Pi Alexandria drachm... much more worn than my first, but I believe this is more typical. I liked the reverse, and am enjoying trying to confirm the description of it given by the seller. Not owning the references, I had a merry time going through all the different descriptions I came across online. For example, some referred to the structure as a temple, others as an altar. Most called it the Altar of Caesareum, others the Altar of Agathodaimon. Some referred to the figure as a statue of Agathodaimon, others simply "veiled goddess". As for what was on top of the structure... I had to take my pick of aplustres, coiled serpents and winged serpents flanking either burning offerings, a pyre, or even a figure of Mt. Argaeus (!).

    I finally settled on a mix that seemed the most suitable to me. I would really appreciate it though if any of you who own the references - Emmett (1449), Milne (2162), Dattari(2999 bis) - could let me know the descriptions given in the actual references. Thanks!

    Please feel free to post any Alexandria drachms or coins featuring temples.

    Antoninus Pius Drachm Altar400.jpg

    ANTONINUS PIUS
    Drachm. 23.1g, 31.9mm.
    Alexandria mint, 151 - 152 AD.
    Dattari 2999 bis var; Emmett 1449; Milne 2162 var; BMC Alexandria 1201 var.
    O: ΑΥΤ Κ Τ ΑΙΛ ΑΔΡ ΑΝΤΩΝΙΝΟΣ ΣΕΒ ΕΥΣ, laureate head left.
    R: Facade of the Caesareum with four garlanded columns enclosing statue of a veiled goddess standing facing and dropping incense on an altar; on top, a stony burning pyre between two aplustres, L-IE (year 15) in field.

    From Wikipedia:
    "The Caesareum in Alexandria was a temple conceived by Cleopatra VII, the last pharaoh of Ancient Egypt, to honour her dead lover Julius Caesar. It was finished by Augustus, after he defeated Antony and Cleopatra. He destroyed all traces of Antony in Alexandria, and apparently dedicated the temple to his own cult"

    I'm not entirely sure the bit about Cleopatra building it for Julius Caesar is correct, as I've also read that she had intended it for the cult of Mark Antony.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice big bronze, Z.

    The description of #1449 in Emmett's book is (reverse) "Altar of Agathodaemon with Statue".

    For year 15, the obverse legend should be

    AVTKTAIΛAΔPANTωNINOC or AVTKTAIΛAΔPANTωNINOCCEBEVC

    Obverse abbreviations:

    AVT(OKPATΩP) = Imperator
    K(AICAP) = Caesar
    T(ITOC) = Titus
    AIΛ(IOC) = Aelius
    AΔP(IANOC) = Hadrianus
    ANTωNINOC = Antoninus
    CEB(ACTOC) = Augustus
    EVC(EBHC) = Pius

    Good thing they abbreviated the legends, huh?
     
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  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Interesting! Thanks for that and the legends too. I believe Milne and Sear have it as Altar of Caesareum, but there's definitely something snakey going on with this type. I've seen varieties with definite serpents surmounting the structure, and others with Agathodaemon and Uraeus flanking it.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice addition
     
  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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    I believe this is Emmett 1668 year 12 but I don't have the skill or nerve to clean it enough to be certain. I liked the portrait and Serapis in temple but usually regret the purchase of uncertainly identifiable coins.
     
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  9. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    what a strange but cool reverse.
     
  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    awesome => what a fantastic coin (very cool, Z-bro ... I think that you have great coin-taste, brother)

    Ummm, I do have a few Temple-examples to toss into your thread ...


    Carolingians
    Carolingians.jpg


    Cilicia, Tarsos (Tyche & Sandan)
    Cilicia Tarsos countermark.jpg

    Maxentius
    maxentius.jpg

    Volusian
    Volusian a.jpg Volusian b.jpg
     
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Thanks, all.

    Nice temples, Steve... that Volusian guy struck at least one great coin, eh (and you bought it).
     
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  12. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    My coins with temples:

    Louis the Pious, Frankish (Carolingian) Empire
    AR Denier
    Obv: + HLVDOVVICVS IMP, legend around cross in circle
    Rev: + XPISTIANA RELIGIO, legend around temple, cross in temple
    Mint: Unknown (struck 822-840 AD)
    Ref: MEC 794

    [​IMG]

    Trajan, Roman Empire

    AE As
    Obv: IMP CAES NERVAE TRAIANO AVG GER DAC P M TR P COS V P P, laureate bust right
    Rev: SPQR OPTIMO PRINCIPI, Pax standing in octastyle temple, SC in ex
    Mint: Rome (struck 98-117 AD)
    Ref: RIC 575

    [​IMG]
     
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